Is there an Atheist preference for the Democratic party going on here?

[RocksInMyHead]

Well historically they strongly endorsed slavery -- Republicans did not
They strongly endorsed "Jim Crow" laws - Republicans did not

I hate to break it to you, but the 1960s were 60 years ago. In the present, the party most interested in protecting civil rights would appear to be the Democrats.

Republicans also do not appear to support the idea of a parent killing their baby even if it is unborn.

The arguments against abortion are largely religious in nature. It shouldn't surprise you that people who are not religious generally disagree with them. There are, of course, atheists who are against abortion - just as there are Christians who support a woman's right to choose - but they are in the minority.

 

[essentialsaltes]

When atheists pry people loose from Christianity where do they go? They end up gravitating over to the religion of atheists - the religion of equality, aka Church of Woke.

Honestly, you don't know what you're talking about. The only atheist here who even talks about 'woke' is Ana The Ist, and he's against it.

 

[Larniavc]

I notice a lot of "every tiny little thing" topics popping up of the form "GOP did this or that which I do not approve of" or "GOP did not win on this xyz issue in one state that I found"...

Is there some sort of "if GOP loses something then atheists win" argument to be had??

The GOP is the political wing of right wing Christianity.

 

[BobRyan]

The GOP is the political wing of right wing Christianity.

That would be good news - just not sure if it is true at all.

 

[durangodawood]

Honestly, you don't know what you're talking about. The only atheist here who even talks about 'woke' is Ana The Ist, and he's against it.

He knows what hes talking about.

Its important to keep the "woke" fires burning hot in the "conservative" mind. If that smolders out, then its all down to "guns!" to keep them agitated.

 

[Larniavc]

When atheists pry people loose from Christianity where do they go? They end up gravitating over to the religion of atheists - the religion of equality, aka Church of Woke. And who supports the Church of Woke the most? Well, the Democrat party.

Atheists win when the Church of Woke wins, and that means a loss for the GOP.

The Church of Woke is the equivalent of putting out all fires in the forest. We can all see how superior this policy really is, until 100 years later when everything burns down to the ground. Sometimes it takes a lot less than 100 years for the true genius to appear. In Venezuela cracks started to appear after only 20 years.

The only people who think about ‘woke’ are the right. It is one of their rallying cries.

 

[Astrid]

The only people who think about ‘woke’ are the right. It is one of their rallying cries.

As opposed to those go are woke without giving
it a thought

 

[childeye 2]

Does it?

Do you recognize evil when you see it?

Can any good people recognize evil?

Great question. It depends on what we mean by 'good' people and 'evil'. There are semantics that reveal where people are coming from. Some might say good people do not see evil in others, and some people might say evil people don't see themselves as evil, and some might say only good people can see evil. But objectively speaking, hypocrisy is incongruent with being reasonable.

 

[Halbhh]

The Republican Party is only a name for those who agree on many ideas. Christians usually vote Republican because their ideas(platform), is much closer to the platform of God, as described in the Bible, than is the platform(ideas) of the Democrats.

That's not quite right.
The laws of God include more than just 1 or 2 commandments....

Neither political party is very aligned to God's way. Both could claim some things, if they carefully ignore and omit mentioning the things they have that directly disobey God's way as taught to us perfectly by Christ.

While some of the things Democrats have against God's way are obvious to you already, are you aware of some of the things the Republican party endorses and follows that directly go against Christ's teaching?

 

[stevil]

I am an Atheist, and I lean towards the right wing politics.
But if I lived in USA and was a voter there, I doubt I would vote Republican.
The Republican party seem hell bent on forcing Christianity and Christian morals onto all USA citizens. I find many Christian positions to be discriminating and repugnant.
I would be in full support of separation of Church and State and fully in support of diversity and personal freedoms, all of which the Republican party seem to be against.

 

[Ana the Ist]

If that means 'agreeing with other people that you think are right' then that doesn't really exclude many of us, does it...

Well that's true if you consider your "peers" people who you think are right.

All my peers growing up were Christians...so as an atheist, I clearly didn't think that they were right.

 

[Ana the Ist]

I'm going to take a shot in the dark here: Maybe 'cos they haven't been convinced that gods exist. Your mileage may vary.

That's the destination....not the route. All routes aren't the same.

 

[Ana the Ist]

I hate to break it to you, but the 1960s were 60 years ago. In the present, the party most interested in protecting civil rights would appear to be the Democrats.

Sorry to break it to you...but the Democrats in California tried to repeal their civil rights to introduce racial quotas..

This administration has been involved multiple civil rights lawsuits for multiple violations. Most famously, their racial discrimination against white farmers.

 

[Ana the Ist]

He knows what hes talking about.

Its important to keep the "woke" fires burning hot in the "conservative" mind. If that smolders out, then its all down to "guns!" to keep them agitated.

Well it's worth mentioning until it's gone.

As of now, still very much a problem.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Honestly, you don't know what you're talking about. The only atheist here who even talks about 'woke' is Ana The Ist, and he's against it.

This is a fair point....and not entirely wrong. I'm not the only atheist on here who hates it....but I probably bring it up the most.

This largely has to do with the resentment I've felt at being moralized to by hypocrites and moral cowards.

It's something I used to point out all the time on the right....and when the left started doing it...I remained consistent.

The main difference between these two groups is the response to dealing with the objections and the willingness to engage in discussion.

The Christians were generally more willing to engage in dialogue and although the certainly questioned my character....it was rarely used to wholesale dismiss my arguments. They might not have listened, but they didn't try to silence me.

The left however will immediately attempt to slander your character, based merely upon disagreeing with them....this how it's easy to identify the new left as a primarily moralizing ideology. If they considered evidence or logic or reason....they would have to engage in discussion. Their arguments are primarily moral arguments....and they constantly shift....and frequently contradict themselves. Slandering character and implying a moral high ground....and the immorality of disagreeing with them....really shouldn't be as effective tactics as they are.

I stated years ago that intellectualism was dying on the left, I'd say it's entirely dead by now.

 

[stevil]

I stated years ago that intellectualism was dying on the left, I'd say it's entirely dead by now.

I'd say that you don't listen to people on the left and instead you assume to know their points better than they do (however you actually mischaracterise which is why you cannot understand them)

 

[Bradskii]

All my peers growing up were Christians...so as an atheist, I clearly didn't think that they were right.

Hey, me too!

 

[Bradskii]

That's the destination....not the route. All routes aren't the same.

I'm struggling here to think of any route that doesn't include disbelief in gods. Although I can think of many reasons why someone might reject religion.

 

[MehGuy]

I notice a lot of "every tiny little thing" topics popping up of the form "GOP did this or that which I do not approve of" or "GOP did not win on this xyz issue in one state that I found"...

Is there some sort of "if GOP loses something then atheists win" argument to be had??

On paper I suspect I more closely align with the values from the Democratic party compared to the Republican one. This is probably true for the majority of atheists. On a personal level, I never developed a serious animosity towards Republican/conservatives. Ironically, I did develop a serious hatred for many of my fellow Democrats/progressives.

A big reason is probably my Republican father. He's one of the most kind and loving people I have ever known. While I disagree with most of his political views, I never gotten the sense that he holds views because of hatred. My father is probably not the typical Republican though, he never got along with a lot of his fellow conservative Christian peers at Church. Especially now, he has a deep dislike for Donald Trump. Economically he's probably more center/left.

Still, I sometimes wonder why I feel this way. Growing up I was more bullied by progressive types than conservative ones. I get along pretty well with many Republican/conservative types on here. Many have told me privately that they were amazed that an atheist like me was so chill with them. Sometimes I wonder if I should be more balanced, but it's just the way my mind feels.

If I grew up in a Republican/conservative household that was less loving, I might feel very differently.

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

Matt Shea is still a member of good standing in the GOP. He wrote a paper called “The Biblical Basis for War” in which he laid out how non-Christians are to be executed. Washington state lawmaker Matt Shea defends advocacy for ‘Holy Army’ as Spokane sheriff refers his writings to FBI

Until Republicans removes people like him from the party, my vote for Democrats doesn’t have a political basis, it is purely a self-preservation tactic.

Edit: Matt Shea is no longer a member of the GOP after they kicked him out after it was revealed a year after this he participated in planning an armed takeover of federal lands.