I know you don't believe in systemic racism, but I do, and this ties these two things together under the broader concept of "racism"
I know....we've been over it. The racism of the gaps argument. Can't explain the gap....can't question why or how it got there....insert racism as the answer without evidence.
It's no different than a Christian telling me that I need an explanation for what happens after death.....or asks how the universe began....and inserts God when I tell him I don't know.
It seems for you the problem is blatant racism, for me the problem is inequalities (with regards to race demographics) over many aspects within society.
I'm going to guess you mean equality of outcomes....not a fair process of opportunities.
If you get rid of all the things that you consider to be blatant racism
I'd be really surprised if you didn't consider those things blatant racism.
If the person being discriminated against was black....for example, in the farm loans article.....instead of white, wouldn't you consider this blatantly racist? Aren't these racist policies and practices the very causes of whatever you consider "systemic racism"?
If you have a policy that says "give x to this race but never to that other race"....you don't consider that a racist policy?
regarding government policies, hiring practices etc, you will probably end up with a worse off society with greater inequalities.
What do you mean by greater inequalities?
You're advocating for inequalities. If someone is denied a job because of their skin color and someone else isn't....that's an inequality. That's an unfair process.
You would just be trading one kind of inequality for another and I'm not sure where you think that endeavor ends.
I say probably, because it seems these things you complain about are put in place to address the existing inequalities.
I'd consider the fact that in any space, industry, team, or anything where white people are underrepresented....nobody really seems to care about these inequalities.
In fact...I'm not sure why you care about inequalities. These are the norm. It doesn't really matter what two groups we observe....it could be white men age 25 and white men age 30. We could look at a study comparing how often they speed, get pulled over, and get a ticket....a scenario where there's few factors involved, sociologically.
I would expect to see a disparity....it would be odd if we didn't. Disparities are the norm....and I've never seen a sociologist claim otherwise. It doesn't matter what society, what point in history, or what groups.
If you can understand that....then it's not hard to see that the people advocating for these changes don't care a bit about inequality.
No, I didn't read that article. My example is something that was happening in a different country decades ago.
Oh...mine was regarding professors who are worried about the quality of the education minorities are receiving in med school. It seems that professors are reluctant to actually correct their mistakes or grade them as they do other students because it might result in accusations of racism.
This of course would probably bring about a sort of institutional collapse in the medical industry if true. Normally, I wouldn't lend it any weight but apparently, it's happening in other fields like mathematics as well.
Edit- probably worth pointing out that if your concern is about inequality of outcomes...not racism (and no these aren't the same thing) then your complaint about me is that I'm not a communist, or maybe a Marxist. It's got nothing to do with racism. You're quite willing to use racist discrimination to achieve Marxist dreams of utopias and equality. Race just happens to be your proxy for fomenting outrage at economic differences.
If you had simply accused me of not being a communist or Marxist, I'd have admitted to it....the very next post.
As such, I don't see any issue of larger concern at the moment.