Is the theory of evolution moral and ethical

[Belk]

I sometimes wish I was dishonest enough to get rich lying to creationists. I would be great! I have excellent scientific credentials, much better than the frauds like Carl Baugh, or Ken Hovind. Mine are real degrees from real universities. I could pretend to be a "saved" evilutionist.

I have a beard, too, so I would rarely need to look in the mirror.

But, I just cannot do it.

Darn that self respect!

 

[Belk]

I went to an all black school that was like 70% black 20% latino and 10% white. At the end of the year for students of the month. NOT ONE OF THEM was black over a 9 month period. Many of them just could careless. They get free lunch and breakfast at school so hunger is not an excuse. Im not even racist I just see facts and will not deny them due to social pressure.

An all black school that was 20% latino and 10% white?

 

[Loudmouth]

I went to an all black school that was like 70% black 20% latino and 10% white.

Perhaps you should go back to that school and retake math.

"Baseball is 50% physical and 90% mental."--Yogi Bera

At the end of the year for students of the month. NOT ONE OF THEM was black over a 9 month period. Many of them just could careless. They get free lunch and breakfast at school so hunger is not an excuse. Im not even racist I just see facts and will not deny them due to social pressure.

Therefore we should discriminate against blacks? We should treat them as less than human? What exactly are you getting at?

 

[malvina]

I sometimes wish I was dishonest enough to get rich lying to creationists. I would be great! I have excellent scientific credentials, much better than the frauds like Carl Baugh, or Ken Hovind. Mine are real degrees from real universities. I could pretend to be a "saved" evilutionist.

I have a beard, too, so I would rarely need to look in the mirror.

But, I just cannot do it.

Well all I can say God said He would make wise men look fools and He does this every day as more and more evidence is unearthed to prove it. We have just as many learned scientists delivering the truth now anyway (such as Steve Hawkings are you as learned as he?) and if you are unable to discern the Truth of this man's documentary then I would say you must be in need of a good dose of Holy Spirit Salts. - The antichrist is out there friend! deceiving the world who are becoming like robots as I've posted here in same thread of opening to World Cups

 

[Tzhaar724]

Perhaps you should go back to that school and retake math.

"Baseball is 50% physical and 90% mental."--Yogi Bera



Therefore we should discriminate against blacks? We should treat them as less than human? What exactly are you getting at?

Well no you should be promoting natural selection of the most productive things surviving and things holding us back to be released. Basically you should be promoting Hitler and his love for advancing science and finances.

 

[Loudmouth]

Well no you should be promoting natural selection of the most productive things surviving and things holding us back to be released. Basically you should be promoting Hitler and his love for advancing science and finances.

Why should I be promoting any of those things?

 

[Dr GS Hurd]

No its not proven, and the article which I posted a link for shows why its not proven.

Actually, the Answers in Genesis gang did not competently challenge geology, or radiometric dates. They did blow a lot of smoke, and just plain lie. Is it moral for creationists to lie?

For example, constants really are constant.

 

[JonFromMinnesota]

I sometimes wish I was dishonest enough to get rich lying to creationists. I would be great! I have excellent scientific credentials, much better than the frauds like Carl Baugh, or Ken Hovind. Mine are real degrees from real universities. I could pretend to be a "saved" evilutionist.

I have a beard, too, so I would rarely need to look in the mirror.

But, I just cannot do it.

You've been published too, haven't you? I bet any creationist site would hire you on the spot.

 

[Tzhaar724]

Actually, the Answers in Genesis gang did not competently challenge geology, or radiometric dates. They did blow a lot of smoke, and just plain lie. Is it moral for creationists to lie?

For example, constants really are constant.

I am an old earth creationist so find things that align more with CS Lewis and William Lane Craig not Kent Hovind or Ken Ham even though I respect them as Godly men.

 

[Tzhaar724]

Why should I be promoting any of those things?

Well if your brain didnt come from intelligence but merely natural selection alone surely your brain should work like that as well. Wanting to advance science, education and more wealthy living and putting survival over morals of what happens to other races. Matter of fact how can you even trust your opinion is right if its based off of random chemical processes and mutations instead of logic and intelligence. Oh thats right because we are created.

 

[Loudmouth]

I am an old earth creationist so find things that align more with CS Lewis and William Lane Craig not Kent Hovind or Ken Ham even though I respect them as Godly men.

I am certainly not against you respecting fellow christians, but Kent Hovind does seem a bit problematic though. I don't think Jesus would look very approvingly on his avarice when it comes to ignoring the tax code. On top of that, I do have to wonder about his mental stability, and it has nothing to do with his creationist beliefs. The things he has said about his conviction and jail time border on psychotic. I think the man needs help.

 

[Loudmouth]

Well if your brain didnt come from intelligence but merely natural selection alone surely your brain should work like that as well. Wanting to advance science, education and more wealthy living and putting survival over morals of what happens to other races.

That's like saying if I believe in the theory of gravity I should be pushing people off of tall buildings. You aren't making any sense.

Matter of fact how can you even trust your opinion is right if its based off of random chemical processes and mutations instead of logic and intelligence. Oh thats right because we are created.

We probably do have built in biases that are a result of our evolutionary histories. That's why science relies on verification through empirical evidence instead of your predilection for irrational beliefs.

 

[Tzhaar724]

I am certainly not against you respecting fellow christians, but Kent Hovind does seem a bit problematic though. I don't think Jesus would look very approvingly on his avarice when it comes to ignoring the tax code. On top of that, I do have to wonder about his mental stability, and it has nothing to do with his creationist beliefs. The things he has said about his conviction and jail time border on psychotic. I think the man needs help.

Well I shouldnt have really applied Godly to Kent Hovind because I am aware of some of the shady things he does, Im more of speaking as a Brother in Christ. If I would say Godly I would say the Christian Mr Rogers. He was alot like Jesus.

 

[Tinker Grey]

It was a mistake for the Pope to endorse Evolution, he only opened the door for more contention, more worldly strife, and i dont think i want to be part of it.

http://www.snopes.com/pope-francis-endorses-bernie-sanders/

 

[Tzhaar724]

That's like saying if I believe in the theory of gravity I should be pushing people off of tall buildings. You aren't making any sense.



We probably do have built in biases that are a result of our evolutionary histories. That's why science relies on verification through empirical evidence instead of your predilection for irrational beliefs.

Do you honestly think we wouldnt be massively ahead in science and education if Hitler had won. He realized that other races were holding humanity as a whole back. But to me personally I dont care that much about science advancements or education really as long as the economy is stable, because I do enjoy diverse human beings.

 

[Loudmouth]

Do you honestly think we wouldnt be massively ahead in science and education if Hitler had won. He realized that other races were holding humanity as a whole back. But to me personally I dont care that much about science advancements or education really as long as the economy is stable, because I do enjoy diverse human beings.

Education isn't a zero sum game. If someone else doesn't do their homework, does that prevent you from doing your homework?

 

[Tzhaar724]

Education isn't a zero sum game. If someone else doesn't do their homework, does that prevent you from doing your homework?

I beg to differ, people would be more inclined to fund science, guess what race cares most about science? White people. There is too many races to cater to just have white person needs met. Therefore alot of that science funding and what not goes to minority programs.

 

[The Barbarian]

I beg to differ, people would be more inclined to fund science, guess what race cares most about science? White people.

And Chinese. And Arabs. And Indians. And Africans. Look though a journal of biology some time. Lots of names that don't seem very European.

Racism was never justified in anything, but particularly not so in science.

 

[Loudmouth]

I beg to differ, people would be more inclined to fund science, guess what race cares most about science? White people.

Any statistics on that? Or is this yet another claim that you have pulled out of thin air?

There is too many races to cater to just have white person needs met. Therefore alot of that science funding and what not goes to minority programs.

There is a lot of tax breaks for the mega-wealthy white folks that could go to science research.

 

[Poster0]

I doubt it. It is the sort of nonsense spouted by creationists.

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I don't care what you and your can of soup say. It was an evolutionist who told me that. Y'all seem to have different opinions depending on the argument. I'm tired of your silly nonsense. I cant take another minute of this repulsive arrogance. You think we are the ones who are foolish? Its you who believe that we humans evolved from primitive ape like creatures who lives in trees. Oh sure, you can deny it now, but that's what you believe. Maybe your ancestors were a bunch of ape men, but not mine

lol, you actually swallow that nonsense