Is the theory of evolution moral and ethical

[allhart]

Once again, we have someone trying to discredit evolution by making it look like their own religious beliefs. What does that tell you about this persons religious beliefs?

More to the point, the theory of evolution uses repeatable observations to test hypotheses just like the rest of science. The evidence we have in the present is a result of events in the past, so that evidence can be used to test our hypotheses of what happened in the past. When those hypotheses prove to be accurate time and time again, they are rolled together into a theory and accepted as a supported theory by the scientific community.

There isn't one person that is objective rather more subjective.... Belief is nothing more than ones opinion n the best ideas win.... Design wins it for me especially when u add up quantum, semitry, entanglement, bio mechanics n physics etc

 

[bhsmte]

Sounds like a lot of typical ranting.

Sounds like this guy has no credibility.

 

[Loudmouth]

There isn't one person that is objective rather more subjective....

I have presented objective scientific evidence throughout this thread.

Belief is nothing more than ones opinion n the best ideas win....

We have objective, empirical evidence which is independent of any beliefs.

 

[Black Dog]

There isn't one person that is objective rather more subjective.... Belief is nothing more than ones opinion n the best ideas win.... Design wins it for me especially when u add up quantum, semitry, entanglement, bio mechanics n physics etc

I'm an atheist, but as time passes it seems more and more likely that design is a viable option. The reason I say that is because science appears to be very close to designing and creating life. Will that make anyone who uses technology to create life a God?

 

[Loudmouth]

I'm an atheist, but as time passes it seems more and more likely that design is a viable option. The reason I say that is because science appears to be very close to designing and creating life. Will that make anyone who uses technology to create life a God?

That's like saying that lightning requires a designer since humans can create electrical arcs.

 

[Poster0]

Hi PosterO. I posted this earlier in the thread in a reply to your post, but I guess you missed it. Could you answer it now?

I have an honest question I would appreciate you answering:

According to you the TOE is "a bunch of nonsense". But we use it as the basis of modern biology, to help create more effective medicine for fighting pathogens and to help explain and combat hereditary diseases.

The question: How does something that is "a bunch of nonsense" keep explaining natural processes, and keep making successful predictions about what we are going to discover, and do it over and over and over?

You seem to be using a broad definition for ToE and for biology. You seem to suggest that because biology is a useful and observable science, that ToE which misuses biology, is also useful and observable. However, this is not reality, and many things found in ToE are not observable, and are far from proven. Even some things that they claim are observable are actually observed using flawed techniques, and therefore they have only observed error, not pure data. What you have done, it seems, is to mix truth with fallacy.

 

[Loudmouth]

You seem to be using a broad definition for ToE and for biology. You seem to suggest that because biology is a useful and observable science, that ToE which misuses biology, is also useful and observable.

How does the ToE misuse biology?

However, this is not reality, and many things found in ToE are not observable, and are far from proven.

Fossils aren't observable?

Even some things that they claim are observable are actually observed using flawed techniques, and therefore they have only observed error, not pure data. What you hae done, it seems, is to mix truth with fallacy.

How are those fossils being observed using flawed techniques?

 

[allhart]

Hi PosterO. I posted this earlier in the thread in a reply to your post, but I guess you missed it. Could you answer it now?

I have an honest question I would appreciate you answering:

According to you the TOE is "a bunch of nonsense". But we use it as the basis of modern biology, to help create more effective medicine for fighting pathogens and to help explain and combat hereditary diseases.

The question: How does something that is "a bunch of nonsense" keep explaining natural processes, and keep making successful predictions about what we are going to discover, and do it over and over and over?

I'm an atheist, but as time passes it seems more and more likely that design is a viable option. The reason I say that is because science appears to be very close to designing and creating life. Will that make anyone who uses technology to create life a God?

Atheism is about 5% of the global population n is on its way out. CERN is about to change everything u want to believe

 

[Poster0]

That's like saying that lightning requires a designer since humans can create electrical arcs.

Actually humans cannot create anything. All they can do is use and manipulate what has already been created.

 

[Loudmouth]

Actually humans cannot create anything. All they can do is use and manipulate what has already been created.

Do you have something more than bare assertion?

 

[allhart]

How does the ToE misuse biology?



Fossils aren't observable?

How are those fossils being observed using flawed techniques?

If u live a 1000yrs your bone brow still grows in thickness etc n there is nothing to say that Yahweh never created the Neanderthal....nothing is exclusive or inclusive, rather ones scientific ideologies are.

 

[Loudmouth]

If u live a 1000yrs your bone brow still grows in thickness etc n there is nothing to say that Yahweh never created the Neanderthal....nothing is exclusive or inclusive, rather ones scientific ideologies are.

Evidence for these assertions? Does it also make your brain shrink?

 

[Poster0]

How does the ToE misuse biology?



Fossils aren't observable?

How are those fossils being observed using flawed techniques?

Im suggesting that those fossils are nothing more than a collection of skulls, and are not missing links. THey are seeing what they want to see. Its really just speculation.

 

[Loudmouth]

Im suggesting that those fossils are nothing more than a collection of skulls, and are not missing links. THey are seeing what they want to see. Its really just speculation.

Then what features are these fossils missing that a real transitional fossil would have?

 

[allhart]

Evidence for these assertions? Does it also make your brain shrink?

Your opinions do not have to be based in reality of the truth. How can u reach those who do not recognize where their at!? U can't.... Now is that subjective!?

 

[Loudmouth]

Your opinions do not have to be based in reality of the truth. How can u reach those who do not recognize where their at!? U can't.... Now is that subjective!?

The fossils are objective evidence. Perhaps you don't base your beliefs in reality, but I do base my conclusions on reality and facts.

 

[Black Dog]

You seem to be using a broad definition for ToE and for biology. You seem to suggest that because biology is a useful and observable science, that ToE which misuses biology, is also useful and observable. However, this is not reality, and many things found in ToE are not observable, and are far from proven. Even some things that they claim are observable are actually observed using flawed techniques, and therefore they have only observed error, not pure data. What you have done, it seems, is to mix truth with fallacy.

I am unaware of anything regarding the TOE that doesn't represent the best work of the top experts in the world, based on available evidence What do you think doesn't represent the best work of the top experts in the world based on available evidence?

If you can prove the TOE incorrect, do you think that proves Yahweh/Jesus exist?

 

[allhart]

The fossils are objective evidence. Perhaps you don't base your beliefs in reality, but I do base my conclusions on reality and facts.

U know that quantum entanglement shows that energy is cognitive to conscious observation however we still have those in like yourself who will rationalize what u can't get your brain around.... Archeology genealogy acts as tho they have the inerrant scientific word of truth.... Try looking up the 10 conundrums n explain the scientific advancements over our modern day sciences

 

[Loudmouth]

U know that quantum entanglement shows that energy is cognitive to conscious observation . . .

How so?

however we still have those in like yourself who will rationalize what u can't get your brain around....

I do? Show me where I have done this.

Archeology genealogy acts as tho they have the inerrant scientific word of truth.... Try looking up the 10 conundrums n explain the scientific advancements over our modern day sciences

Try looking at the fossils. Please tell me why they are not transitional, if in fact you think they are not evidence for evolution.

 

[allhart]

How so?



I do? Show me where I have done this.



Try looking at the fossils. Please tell me why they are not transitional, if in fact you think they are not evidence for evolution.

U can't even carbon date n there is not even transitional evolutionary species ever recorded lol