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Your views do not align with Mary's response to the archangel, nor do they align with the attitude Jesus's brothers had towards Him, nor do they align with Jesus placing His mother in the care of the apostle John. Thus, what you propose is not supported by Scripture as you claim, whereas the traditional view is.It is more important to have your views align with Scriptures; than to align scriptures to align with your views. Such is the case here. I have proposed an idea supported by scriptures, because scriptures are where I get the idea from.
You interpret Scripture according to the novel Protestant tradition you have inherited, thus you are unable to see what is plainly there.Nowhere have I seen the perpetual virginity of Mary inside of Scriptures. If you can, I'd still like to see it.
I can only presume you are accusing me of twisting words. I have done nothing of the sort.Because twisting words to suit a particular point of view is not coherent with biblical teaching. It is only found outside and supported by outside sources.
There is absolutely no evidence the Church tried to avoid persecution. Rather they accepted it with patience and joy because they knew they were storing up riches in heaven.I propose this Roman tradition of perpetual virginity is where it originated from for the purpose of promoting an idea acceptable to the early church to attempt to alleviate persecution. As really no evidence for the perpetual nature is presented.
It was never a question raised, in fact it was not in dispute at all except for a few individuals who decided they could interpret Scripture for themselves.Due to influence, this was a question (perpetualism) raised later and addressed at the counsels and by decree issued, set in stone what to believe concerning this matter.
The Scriptures call the Church, the "pillar and ground of truth".As per the "church authority" superseding the scriptures, one clearly sees how the truth gets thrown under the bus after an idea such as this is recycled and recycled to the doctrine of today. Whereas scripture clearly refutes the church's infallible nature, as Jesus Christ is the rock. The church is built upon that rock. The church isn't the rock itself.
Israel, in the Old Testament, did not have the Holy Spirit, and history records that the early Christians preferred to suffer martyrdom than to accept teaching which they had not received.Many times in the O.T. we see Israel adopt traditions of the foreign influence to which they were under. Since all of Judaea was under Rome's influence at the time of Jesus, it is quite possible.
Not really worthy of note, since you cannot demonstrate a historical link between Vestal virgins and the Church teaching regarding the ever virginity of Mary. As I have already pointed out, and you have not attempted to address, churches that were established very early and well outside the influence of Rome, all profess the ever virginity of Mary.And worthy of note, the Temple of Vesta, for which the Vestal Virgins were named, existed until 391, then in that year was it abolished, the practice in 394.
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