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Is the mark a computer chip?

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Hello:)

My last church said the Mark of the Beast will be a computer chip with three sets of six digit numbers, a chip implanted under the skin and scanned.

The church I'm visiting now says no, it won't be that.

What do you think?

Because the technology for the chip seems to be coming!
 

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Hi, computer chips could replace currency. But technology advances in leaps and bounds. There is the cochlear implant for deafness, and now an implant for depression. In the west we design for medicine, in Russia they used to have other ideas, mind control. Now such a pursuit is illegal and under police action. But devices could be on the way in the distant future. Perhaps developed at first for criminal sex offenders. Or to treat mental illness, or criminality.

Recently a computer was made that is potentially a billion times faster than the best so far, and they are getting smaller. It is predicted they could match human intelligence in decades.

There is also the Russian developed microwave device I only heard of. It is possible that in the future these could all be in a chip. Microwaves, mind control, artificial intelligence, economics...

The mark will cover the three issues, new world economy, new religion, new ideology, or government. A dictatorship. All anti-Christian.

From receiving the mark, there is not return to repentance. It will have to be new technology, something that effects the mind and spirit. With absolute rejection of grace and God. Rejection of worship, tithes, and rulership. With coercion, that you can't buy or sell without it. We don't know how far this system will reach around the world.

I think it will be a chip of as yet, unimaginable technology.
 
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Hello:)

My last church said the Mark of the Beast will be a computer chip with three sets of six digit numbers, a chip implanted under the skin and scanned.

The church I'm visiting now says no, it won't be that.

What do you think?

Because the technology for the chip seems to be coming!


personally I think this technology of chip implantation will precede the antichrist, thus for many years people will scoff where is your antichrist, we have been using the chip ID for years now, but then when he shows up, he will require his mark to be incorperated with the chip......but I recomend getting none of them
 
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Undoubtedly we are all guessing as to what this mark means and how it will be applied to the human body. All we can do is simply be aware that such a thing will happen and undoubtedly we or the generation that will be affected by it will understand what it is when it happens.

I used to work for NCR in 1979 here in Australia and they were in competition with IBM to see who could install the first bar code system in a supermarket; the company was convinced that 90% of the Australian retail industry would be cashless by 1985. So here we are 31 years later and we are not even close to this figure - in fact one large whitegoods company in our country even advertises that they will give sizable discounts for cash.
 
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The theory that says the mark of the beast is a computer chip has been around since the 80's , I think.

I reject the theory because the scripture was given for all generations and the only reason for that interpretation is modern technology and people speculating. I don't think that the scripture was given to only provide meaning for our generation. People who read that a 1000 years ago should be able to get something out of it too. So I find it is to be unlikely that the only meaningful interpretation would only be possible in the last fifty years.

Also worth noting , some Greek manuscripts render the number 616 and not 666 as noted in the NRSV version of the Bible.

Some of the other theories which have also used Gematria as a basis for their interpretation have suggested Nero , the Pope and Muhammed. They do this by adding the number values of the letters together and obtaining 666. If a person connects it with the woman of Revelation 17 drunk on the blood of the saints, one could apply that to all three of the choices. Nero and the Roman empire are well known for their persecution of the Christians and the blood that they spilt. But so is the Islamic empire and so is the Roman Catholic Church. All three waged war on the saints and killed countless Christians over the centuries. Maybe they are all a little bit right because the scriptures say one place that there are many antichrists.

1 John 2:18
Little children, it is the last time: and as you have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; by which we know that it is the last time.

So perhaps any system or person who opposes the anointed ones are the anti Christs , plural since Christ means anointed one and Christians are the anointed ones, plural. So that the antichrists are the followers of The Devil who is the ultimate anti Christ. I think anyone who is killing and opposing true Christians could be considered an antichrist. SO we really cannot rule out Islam and Nero as at least being antichrists in their generation.

The term antichrist literally means one who opposes Christ. Or even more literally , one who opposes the anointed one. Anytime the anointing of God manifests ion this earth , the spirit of antichrist rises up to oppose it. Of course as we are in the last days and as we approach the end , the battle intensifies and the antichrist spirit manifests even more.

Based upon that , I do believe that while these other examples may have been antichrists plural as in operating in the spirit of antichrist , I also believe that the ultimate unveiling of the antichrist will come in the last generation before the return of Christ to this earth. So perhaps the ultimate unveiling could involve a computer chip , but I still have my doubts.
 
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I say this already happened under a Roman persecution and this passage was intended for the readers of the time whose lives were in great peril.


I agree. the question is whether it is limited to just that or does it have multiple fulfillments in multiple generations.
 
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Hello:)

My last church said the Mark of the Beast will be a computer chip with three sets of six digit numbers, a chip implanted under the skin and scanned.

The church I'm visiting now says no, it won't be that.

What do you think?

Because the technology for the chip seems to be coming!
Sure. Why not?
People use chips to insure return of their lost cats and dogs. The infrared scanner scans the area the chip is traditionally implanted in,just beneath the dermis layer of the skin, and all the owners contact information, including the pet's name, appears on the scanner gun.

Pets may be said to be the first experiment to see if people would acclimate to having a chip implanted into a family member. Under the pretense if lost, they shall stand a better chance of being returned if found.

When I worked in Hospital there was talk that chips, due to the number of infant abductions from nursery's all around the country, and other child abduction reports, that shortly after birth parent(s) would have an option of having a chip implanted into the heel of their newborn.
Placed there at the same time as the foot prints were taken shortly after birth.
I left the program before I heard if this was implemented anywhere in the country.

A friend of mine who owns a retail shop just a few miles from me, told me about a regular customer of hers, just a few months ago who'd gone on vacation.
She'd traveled from the west coast across the country and back to the east, having flown to LA to see her daughter and then rented a car to return home. Stopping to see all the major tourist sights on the way. Yellow Stone, Grand Canyon, etc...

While in the mid-west she stopped for gas at a mini-market. Having filled up at the pump with her debit card, she then ventured into the store for drinks for the next leg of the trip.
In front of her was an older woman with an arm full of stuff waiting in the line for check out. Once her items were tallied, this woman, rather than reach for cash or a credit or debit card, simply put the back of her hand up toward the counter to pay for her purchase.
And there, turned toward the customer side of the counter, was what looks like your average infrared scanner gun used at grocery stores. Only it was in a bracket on the counter and more elongated than those regular style guns.
This woman waved the back of her hand beneath the red light of that scanner, when it came time to pay, and the register then spit out a receipt for the purchase, as it was paid in full.

This woman who knows my friend very well, said she left her drinks on the counter, put her cash back in her pocket and fled the store.
She couldn't believe she'd just seen a woman pay for her purchase with a swipe of her hand.
Chip implant!

So yes, the mark of the beast could very well be a chip. After all, we know the powers that be that run this country are well aware of the impact fear has on the psyche. People will comply with just about anything so as to feel safe.
With all the ID theft going on, personal security at a risk, bank accounts being hijacked because someone uses a debit card in the wrong place, or a credit card that links to that account, electronic hijacking of your credit cards, debit cards, etc...
What better way to persuade compliance to a new personal security ID program?
An organic chip implant, sold with the assurance it's safe because you've seen it used on your pets for years, right? That guarantees your ID and privacy is safe. All your accounts remain your own if you're implanted with a chip designed especially for you. Hijack proof, because it uses your DNA to sync it with your personal information. Like a PIN number only it's your genetic code.

Sure. People would implant just to be safe in their finances. And then, after say a decade or more, we'll be told that program is so successful that in order to combat counterfeiting of currency, we're to become, by law, a cashless society.
And that's when it's over!

Watch the movie, "Demolition Man". A Sly Stallone flick that is typical of his early work, and yet that's not the point. The point is the society that is depicted in that movie. It's not Hollywood fiction, in so much as it is a very likely future scenario playing out as B-movie fluff.
Especially those who are the under ground dwellers. Those who are not registered in the system of trade and values. Who aren't implanted with the chips that allow those who are compliant to the new rules to eat, obtain housing, get a job, etc... They're the scavengers of that top side society. Dennis Leary plays that groups leader.
It's a heck of a movie if you read between the lines.

Especially when you consider, we now have the technology to make prophecy, and the worst fears about it, come to fruition.
And the salvation from that, is able to be brought forth as well.
Simply comply with the new rules, and it'll all be OK.

Look at how America's society changed after 9-11, with the passage of the U.S. Patriot Act.
And now we have evolved unto the passage into law of the National Defense Authorization Act. (S.1867)


Nothing new under the sun.
It just seems new to us. But fear has always been the great motivator. As history well records.

“Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” Hermann Wilhelm Göring - Hitler's Reich Marshal, to a private court appointed psychiatrist during the Nuremberg Trials.
 
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The mark is based on the law where it states that we are to have the word on our hands and forehead.
Those that will wear it will be the merchants that will bemoan the fall of Babylon the Great, as only they can both buy and sell.
 
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Revelation 14:9-11 (NASB)
9 Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, "If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 "And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name."
 
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I would say no it isn't a chip and to be careful believing this type of thing. Scriptures make it abundantly clear that the beast and false prophet will fool many, and if possible even the very elect of God, into receiving the Mark. Now I'm not saying it's impossible for this to be the Mark, but just don't close yourself off to what God may actually be saying is or isn't so you aren't fooled.
 
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I would say no it isn't a chip and to be careful believing this type of thing. Scriptures make it abundantly clear that the beast and false prophet will fool many, and if possible even the very elect of God, into receiving the Mark. Now I'm not saying it's impossible for this to be the Mark, but just don't close yourself off to what God may actually be saying is or isn't so you aren't fooled.
True indeed, but so many are busy denying it is a microchip that it may well catch them off guard.
 
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