Is the Earth Flat?

[JohnEmmett]

That’s Buzz Aldrin … not Neil A

 

[JohnEmmett]

Careless Christians are forcing people to be skeptical

 

[atpollard]

So you and the other person and many others have faith in man and science. I have faith in God's given testimony in The Bible.

So we will see who is correct eventually.

All the places in the bible where the word FLAT appears:

• Lev 21:18 KJV] 18 For whatsoever man [he be] that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous,
• [Num 22:31 KJV] 31 Then the LORD opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of the LORD standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand: and he bowed down his head, and fell flat on his face.
• [Jos 6:5, 20 KJV] 5 And it shall come to pass, that when they make a long [blast] with the ram's horn, [and] when ye hear the sound of the trumpet, all the people shall shout with a great shout; and the wall of the city shall fall down flat, and the people shall ascend up every man straight before him. ... 20 So the people shouted when [the priests] blew with the trumpets: and it came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city.

All the places in the Bible where God says "FLAT" and "EARTH" in the same sentence:

There are no concordance results for "flat" AND "earth" in the KJV.

However it DOES appear in the BBE [Bible in Basic English]:

• [Gen 1:26 BBE] 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, like us: and let him have rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over the cattle and over all the earth and over every living thing which goes flat on the earth.
• [Gen 3:14 BBE] 14 And the Lord God said to the snake, Because you have done this you are cursed more than all cattle and every beast of the field; you will go flat on the earth, and dust will be your food all the days of your life:
• [Lev 5:2 BBE] 2 If anyone becomes unclean through touching unconsciously some unclean thing, such as the dead body of an unclean beast or of unclean cattle or of any unclean animal which goes flat on the earth, he will be responsible:
• [Lev 11:41-44, 46 BBE] 41 Everything which goes flat on its body on the earth is disgusting, and is not to be used for food. 42 Whatever goes on its stomach or on four feet or has a great number of feet, even all those going flat on the earth, may not be used for food, for they are disgusting. 43 You are not to make yourselves disgusting with anything which goes about flat on the earth; you may not make yourselves unclean with them, in such a way that you are not holy to me. 44 For I am the Lord your God: for this reason, make and keep yourselves holy, for I am holy; you are not to make yourselves unclean with any sort of thing which goes about flat on the earth. ... 46 This is the law about beasts and birds and every living thing moving in the waters, and every living thing which goes flat on the earth:
• [Lev 20:25 BBE] 25 So then, make division between the clean beast and the unclean, and between the clean bird and the unclean: do not make yourselves disgusting by any beast or bird or anything which goes flat on the earth, which has been marked by me as unclean for you.
• [Lev 22:5 BBE] 5 Or anyone touching any unclean thing which goes flat on the earth, or someone by whom he may be made unclean in any way whatever;
• [Deu 4:18 BBE] 18 Or of anything which goes flat on the earth, or any fish in the water under the earth.
• [Deu 14:19 BBE] 19 Every winged thing which goes flat on the earth is unclean to you and may not be used as food.
• [Jdg 7:13 BBE] 13 When Gideon came there, a man was giving his friend an account of his dream, saying, See, I had a dream about a cake of barley bread which, falling into the tents of Midian, came on to the tent, overturning it so that it was stretched out flat on the earth.
• [1Sa 28:20 BBE] 20 Then Saul went down flat on the earth, and was full of fear because of Samuel's words: and there was no strength in him, for he had taken no food all that day or all that night.
• [Job 12:8 BBE] 8 Or to the things which go flat on the earth, and they will give you wisdom; and the fishes of the sea will give you news of it.
• [Eze 8:10 BBE] 10 So I went in and saw; and there every sort of living thing which goes flat on the earth, and unclean beasts, and all the images of the children of Israel, were pictured round about on the wall.
• [Mic 7:17 BBE] 17 They will take dust as their food like a snake, like the things which go flat on the earth; they will come shaking with fear out of their secret places: they will come with fear to the Lord our God, full of fear because of you.

... HOWEVER, NONE OF THOSE 17 VERSES CLAIM THE EARTH IS FLAT.

Deuteronomy 18:20 [NKJV]
'But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.'

 

[Jude1:3Contendforthefaith]

That’s Buzz Aldrin … not Neil A

I'll try to find another picture.

Edit :

 

[JohnEmmett]

I'll try to find another picture.

To become a Freemason, the applicant has to … believe in the existence of a supreme being and in the immortality of the soul.

 

[Jude1:3Contendforthefaith]

To become a Freemason, the applicant has to … believe in the existence of a supreme being and in the immortality of the soul.

But "Which" God Specifically ?

Have you heard of "Jahbulon" of Royal Arch Masonry ?

Jahbulon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Hans Blaster]

So what is your proof that these craft are actually going to where you say they are. Have you actually been on one.

Have you ever been outside the confines of your valley? I ask because anyone who has traveled any distance should notice differences in the stars that indicate the rotation.

 

[JohnEmmett]

But "Which" God Specifically ?

Does it matter what the Name is

 

[JohnEmmett]

The Architect Scene

 

[Jude1:3Contendforthefaith]

Does it matter what the Name is

Yes, it absolutely does.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Yes, it absolutely does.

Freemasonry's official claim … "There is no separate Masonic God," nor a separate proper name for a deity in any branch of Freemasonry.

From Wikipedia

 

[Edwin Wright]

So you and the other person and many others have faith in man and science. I have faith in God's given testimony in The Bible.

So we will see who is correct eventually.

Here are some verses from Scripture that may be of interest: BIBLE VERSES CONFIRMING PLANAR EARTH GEOCENTRISM

 

[JohnEmmett]

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[d taylor]

Yet you use the products of science every day in your life!!

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What does that have to do with science lying about God's creation.
...Just because math is used to build a bridge. I have to also believe man comes from monkeys or the earth is a magic spinning ball of water floating out in a vacuum of space. Or that men can get in a rocket and fly 300,000 miles away, etc..

Maybe you work that way but i do not.

 

[d taylor]

Not "without question", but certainly since Magellan proved it by actually circumnavigating the globe, and then planes flew around the globe, and then satellites orbited the globe, and then men in spacecraft orbited the globe.

It was lack of evidence that caused most to reject the shell of a turtle on the back of 4 elephants model of the Earth ... not a lack of Faith.

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The Bible never states the earth is turtle shell on the back of elephants. But The Bible does say that God has established the earth and set it on foundations

 

[Hans Blaster]

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What does that have to do with science lying about God's creation.

Assumes facts not in evidence

...Just because math is used to build a bridge.

Math is used to calculate, but the strength of the bridge is based on science. The strength of the materials, the forces, etc. science /= math.

I have to also believe man comes from monkeys

You don't have to believe it but humans are apes (and like monkeys are primates).

or the earth is a magic spinning ball of water floating out in a vacuum of space.

Space isn't quite a vacuum. The Earth isn't magic or made of water. (It is a self-gravitating ball of rock and metal with a thin coat of surface water). The Earth doesn't "float" in space, but orbits the Sun by continually falling towards it, only to be deflected by the forward momentum. (That's what an orbit is.)

Or that men can get in a rocket and fly 300,000 miles away, etc..

You can deny it, but it happened and will happen again in a year or so.

Maybe you work that way but i do not.

Yes, I and others, work with evidence, rather than stubborn adherence to an interpretation of a text that contradicts evidence.

 

[JohnEmmett]

The Earth doesn't "float" in space, but orbits the Sun by continually falling towards it, only to be deflected by the forward momentum. (That's what an orbit is.)

Does this not inspire a thought of design

 

[atpollard]

The Bible never states the earth is turtle shell on the back of elephants. But The Bible does say that God has established the earth and set it on foundations

• Where is the edge?
• Why does the shadow of the disk not change on the moon as it passes overhead each night?
• Why is my Brother-in-law (a pastor at One Hope) struggling to get the Gospel into the hands of every child on Earth lying about flying around the Earth on a trip that involves stops in Europe, Africa, Asia, Australia, South America and then back to Florida (North America) as he coordinates with teams around the "disk"?
• Where do all those rockets that I have seen launched from Florida's Space Coast really go?
• What is gained by such a silly and complicated conspiracy? [Flat Earth or Round, My HOPE and TRUST is still in Christ my Savior and His finished work on a hill near Jerusalem.]

The Bible also tells me that God longs to gather us under His wings like a hen gathers its chicks and the Lamb will rule with a SWORD sticking out of His mouth ... I have learned to accept the Poetry as poetic rather than as a biology text on a God (with feathers and a sword for a tongue).

 

[Lost4words]

Flat earth is a fairy tale. Its unreal. Its all made up.

No flat earther has ventured to the edge of their flat earth.

God created man. He gave us science. He gave us the ability for knowledge.

Those who believe the Bible claims for a flat earth, misinterpret God's word MASSIVELY.

 

[d taylor]

Have you ever been outside the confines of your valley? I ask because anyone who has traveled any distance should notice differences in the stars that indicate the rotation.

No i am not a traveler, I can not get my work done traveling. The sun, moon and stars above simply move over the earth in the circuits (course) God has assigned them since their creation.