Sir the statements "get a clue" and "I am ignorant" may have been what psychology has taught you but the Bible has never commanded to tell people those things. Again psychology is just a way to replace the Bible in my oppinion. Psychiatry is more of a medical science and may have a place, but a christian psychologist to me is like an evolitionary biologist. It's just theoretical, no solid evidence it is either effective or true wisdom. Worldy wisdom has no place in the church, period. But I know this is a very sensitive topic. People rely on psychology it is their crutch, literally speaking. They would not know what to do if it did not exist. However for thousands of years it did not exist, and we did fine.
Once again we read another litany of fallacious responses that
prove what I have posted correct.
The facts in evidence deonstrate the lack of knowledge. That appraisal is
not an opinion; it is the logically necessary conclusion of the
facts in vidence.
You're correct: I should be more edifying. You do need to get the facts because the posts display an enormous lack of knowledge. Are you now more receptive and willing to repent that a kinder wording has been posted? All you've done is put yourself on the spot. I can repent without shame and make amends right here and now in the discussion. Can you? Will you? Will we read a statement by you acknowledging the facts in evidence contrary to the Bobgans' nonsense
and your personal opinion?
I'm not practicing as a psychologist to you here. It would be inappropriate to do so. The attempt to leverage that is a mockery of the op, the profession of psychology and me as a poster
and you just got done admonishing me for being unscripturally derisive. Under any ordinary circumstances that is called hypocrisy. One does not need to be a psychologist to understand that is the likely inevitability of those who do not know what they are talking, those who do not know how or will not defend their own posts, and those arguing from the flesh, not the Spirit.
Your opinion is wrong. Any veracity that opinion might have in part has not been evidenced and it has been two days since the op was posted. You have had plenty of time to make the case for
your opinion - not the Bobgans' opinion - and have for some unidentified reason(s) refused to do so despite many diverse posters bringing various concerns to your attention. The
evidence shows you were not prepared. to explain or defend the errors posted under your opinion.
Yes, psychiatry is more of a medical science.
Everyone agrees! That is what psychiatry is intended to be but because of the limits of the medical paradigm psychology arose. Medication does not cure all mental health or soul corruptions. That's why intra-psychic and systemic approaches fostering positive healing change are being developed. Many, if not most of them are quite successful and increasingly so
as the scientific empircal evidence evidences! That which is not proven successful does not endure. It gets replaced with more efficacious knowledge, understanding, and practices.
Yes, psychiatry is more of a medical science but when it comes to diagnosis
we are all using the same diagnostic criteria. I and others have noted this. It was a fact before we noted it. It was a fact before the Bobgans' began their dissent. It is a fact you've ignored.
Something being "medical" and "scientific" and being "theoretical" are not mutually exclusive conditions. That is a false dichotomy. This is one more in a long and growing list of logical fallacies existing in what exists of a case for your
opinion. Your opinion isn't very medical, scientific, scriptural, logical, or correct. It is factually incorrect and logically fallacious and you were kindly, patiently, overbearingly, hopefully, and trustingly given the opportunity to make the case for your opinion and have refused to do so, instead relying on links to others' errors. You've chosen to be critical and support the critics rather than investigate the critics and become more informed. That's not scriptural, either, createdtoworship.
The
fact is ever since Genesis 3:7 humans have been 1) estranged from their Creator, and 2) bound to the practice of trial-and-error-learning because our ability to learn from contrast - the comparison of the corrupt to the pure - has been severely compromised. The effort to learn incrementally based on trial and error process is necessary. Some call it science. The process upon which it is built is theoretical, not scientific and anyone, even the newbie, in any apologetics board will tell you science itself must rely upon appeals to faith and theory it cannot
scientifically prove. That entire branch of your dissent therefore a red herring. We'll add that fallacy to the list you've deployed in your opinion.
Christian psychologists are doing their best to correct worldly wisdom. Without the still prevailing Christian paradigm and without Christians actively involved in the profession and development of the science both would look radically different. You should pay attention to that point. Every single Christian practitioner here in this discussion will tell you that. And this too will likely be ignored
demonstrating the premise you're more invested in your opinion than the facts. That's not scriptural.
I have repeatedly stated all truth is God's truth. You have ignored that fact. That truth about truth means there isn't really anything called "worldly wisdom." It is an oxymoron and Christian psychologists understand that fact. I don't have the time or space to explain the presuppositional nature of that error in your opinion but you should be able to understand and engage the simple fact all truth is God's truth and psychologists - secular or religious - are simply trying to uncover the truth about the single most complex condition in creation: the human soul.
It's not a sensitive topic. Once again you've appealed to your own erroneous attempts at mind-reading that are more accurately a gross lack of empathy that is rude and disrespectful and you were admonished about it earlier, exhorted not to practice it further, and asked to repent. More content completely ignored despite two days to address the matter. That's not scriptural. The facts in evidence show you weren't prepared for the op-relevant facts wherever they've departed from what your sources say. We we're posting because we're "sensitive," we're posting because the op is wrong and we have a brother in the faith who is believing falsehoods and in need of correction. You've been shown kindness, patience, forbearance, hope, and trust.
That is how we've been "sensitive."
What some people do or don't do is not a measure of a science's or a profession's veracity. That's an appeal to common practice and as such it is fallacious. We'll add that to the still growing list of fallacy employed to support your opinion. You haven't defined "crutch," you haven't evidence psychology's use as such, you haven't evidenced the degree of practice as a crutch, you haven't
evidence anything. And it's not a "literal" crutch. lol. That was just a dumb mistake evidencing a lack of thought.
Technically, psychology has always existed. Humans have been studying the soul since there were humans. The moment Adam and Eve were self-aware they were studying the soul. I explained this in summary manner much eariler and that content has been sitting silently in the discussion.....
ignored.
So... in conclusion: There's nt a single sentence about psychology in the post to which I now reply that is scripturally, logically, factually, or truthfully correct.
Yes, problems exist in psychology but that is true of any science in which secularists and theists compete. In the end Christians win because
all truth is God's truth and Christian psychologists understand this and practice in faith and obedience.
And we're all now going to see how you respond to a cogent discussion that contains piles of evidence showing the Bobgans' and their views incorrect. Theirs is the worse kind of falsehood: arguments built on partial truths. That practice goes all the way back to Eden. We're waiting to see if you can and will consider any of the additional truth and facts presented to you in this op. We're looking to see if you can practice what you preach and respond in a scriptural manner.
Do so now, please.
