Is Paul's issue sin or the law?

[JohnRabbit]

But NO WHERE does Paul or Moses for that matter say that Abraham did not have the law.

Particularly when G-d himself states plainly that HE DID .... Gen 26:5
because Abraham obeyed Me and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes and My laws.”

these folks ain't trying to hear all that!

 

[JohnRabbit]

The same Paul that wrote Romans also wrote: " Keeping God's commands is what counts." 1 Corinthians 7:19

again, these folks ain't trying to hear all that!

 

[bugkiller]

Not at all. "Roman" Catholic Church is simply slang for Catholic Church.

Just where do you get that from?

You should consult a good dictionary.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

Very disingenuous. It is speaking about where the gentiles heart was. There was no reason for a goy to be among israel UNLESS he or she was seeking to be in relationship with the Father.

No it isn't. You need it to mean that to support your doctrine. Furthermore you can't back it with anything from the Bible.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

Never said it was

We know that very well.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

Nope, but thanks for twisting what I said.

I am for being obedient to the decree set forth in scripture.

Maybe you should consider what they say a lot closer. To me you're only compounding your sin.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

these folks ain't trying to hear all that!

Hi silly rascally wabbit. How de world you bean?

Wonder why you still don't hear "now we are delivered from the law?" Rom 7:6

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

again, these folks ain't trying to hear all that!

Did Paul write Rom 7:6?

bugkiller

 

[JohnRabbit]

Hi silly rascally wabbit. How de world you bean?

Wonder why you still don't hear "now we are delivered from the law?" Rom 7:6

bugkiller

been fine, thanks for asking.

it's "old hat" and i've already been through this with you before, you know?

 

[JohnRabbit]

Did Paul write Rom 7:6?

bugkiller

yes, bug eye, he did.

and, as far as i see, you still don't get it.

'tis a shame!

 

[bugkiller]

been fine, thanks for asking.

it's "old hat" and i've already been through this with you before, you know?

So explain it yet again. You bring up old hat as though its never been said.

bugkiller

 

[bugkiller]

yes, bug eye, he did.

and, as far as i see, you still don't get it.

'tis a shame!

What is it I don't get about Rpm 7:6?

bugkiller

 

[JohnRabbit]

So explain it yet again. You bring up old hat as though its never been said.

What is it I don't get about Rpm 7:6?

bugkiller

i'm sure you can look it up in the old threads!

 

[Open Heart]

Very disingenuous. It is speaking about where the gentiles heart was. There was no reason for a goy to be among israel UNLESS he or she was seeking to be in relationship with the Father.

It has nothing to do with hearts. Gentiles lived in the Promised land for all sorts of reasons, like that the economy was better.

 

[Open Heart]

Just where do you get that from?

You should consult a good dictionary.

bugkiller

The earliest WRITTEN use of Catholic was by Ignatius in 108 AD when he referred to the Catholic Church. Notice, no "Roman." For the next 1500 years it was simply the Catholic Church. During the Reformation, Protestants in England began referring to it as the Roman Catholic Church as A FORM OF DERISION. Over the last 500 years, the expression has lost its negative connotation, so that even Catholics use it. However, it is STILL slang. If you go to the Vatican website, you will see that "Roman Catholic" is never used: the name used is simply Catholic Church.

 

[bugkiller]

The earliest WRITTEN use of Catholic was by Ignatius in 108 AD when he referred to the Catholic Church. Notice, no "Roman." For the next 1500 years it was simply the Catholic Church. During the Reformation, Protestants in England began referring to it as the Roman Catholic Church as A FORM OF DERISION. Over the last 500 years, the expression has lost its negative connotation, so that even Catholics use it. However, it is STILL slang. If you go to the Vatican website, you will see that "Roman Catholic" is never used: the name used is simply Catholic Church.

I see you didn't consult a dictionary. If one says "Catholic" (which is a slang or a shortened name) they're referencing the RCC. If one says "catholic" they're talking about the "Christian Church" which isn't an organized religion. I've a couple quotes with Ignatius using the word "catholic" in 105. The RCC came to be a power player in the 500's I think. I think the reformers recognized the RCC as a religion opposed to "The Church." I realize you might say I'm misinformed to which I'll say "Oh, prove it with quotes and citations." Furthermore I think you're lacking in church history. I'm no authority but do have some education and private hard copy reference material.

This isn't a discussion about organized religion. It is a discussion about the law. Please get back on topic.

bugkiller

 

[Open Heart]

If one says "Catholic" (which is a slang or a shortened name) they're referencing the RCC.

You have it backwards, my friend. If you go to the Vatican website, you won't find the term "Roman Catholic Church." It refers simply to the Catholic Church.

 

[bugkiller]

You have it backwards, my friend. If you go to the Vatican website, you won't find the term "Roman Catholic Church." It refers simply to the Catholic Church.

That ma be so, but I simply don't have the time to waste no the inclination to spend days on end searching for support of your presentation. It matters not if what you said is true. Here the church you belong to is the RCC. There's not a shred of evidence Ignatius was speaking about what we know as the RCC when he used the term "catholic."

I'm trying to be polite and request you either leave this thread or get back on topic.

bugkiller

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

BABerean2 said: ↑
Unless you are performing animal sacrifices, you are not keeping the 613 either.

Sure I am. One of the 613 is to only offer sacrifice at the designated place. Remember that we are only to keep the commandments that apply to us. Did Daniel keep the 613? Of course. He abided by the prophecy of Hosea which said when there was no temple that prayers would be our sacrifices.
That's why Daniel prayed three times a day (at the times of the three sacrifices).

No better sacrifice than on a bbq grill...........

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Zephaniah 1:7
Be-hushed! from faces of my- Lord YAHWEH, that near Day of YAHWEH. That YAHWEH prepares a Sacrifice,
He sanctifies ones being called of Him.
8 And becomes in Day of Sacrifice of YAHWEH.........

Ezekiel 39:17
" And thou, son of adam, thus says my Lord YAHWEH, say thou! to bird of every wing, and to all of beast of the field: 'be assembled ye! and come ye! together ye from round about on Sacrifice of Me which I Sacrificing for ye, a great Sacrifice on the Mountains of Israel, and ye eat flesh and ye drink blood.

Reve 19:17
And I perceived one messenger standing in the sun, and he cries-out in great voice, saying to all the birds, the ones flying in mid-heaven, "hither! be ye being gathered! into the Supper of the Great God. 18 That ye may be eating fleshes.............
[Zeph 1:7/Ezekiel 39:19]



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[LittleLambofJesus]

bugkiller said: ↑
Did Paul write Rom 7:6?

bugkiller

yes, bug eye, he did.

and, as far as i see, you still don't get it.

'tis a shame!

I haven't heard that term in ages......

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