"Such as these" children, is not "these" children.
What does that mean?
"Such as these;" i.e., not the wise and learned (Mt 11:25, 18:3, 19:14), but the trusting and unpretentious.
Again, you are not being clear, which is almost always the case. Your doctrine says that people are objects of God's wrath right from birth, so how could Jesus say that the kingdom of heaven is made up of people such as those little children that Jesus said to come to Him? Those little children who you say were born as children of God's wrath. Explain that and stop being so vague.
Eph 2:3 is quite clear and needs no interpretation,
LOL. Please don't say ridiculous things like this. You should know better. It's obvious that there are many times when things are clear to someone, but not clear to others. This kind of comment is useless. I don't care if you think that Ephesians 2:3 is clear and matches your understanding of it. I disagree with your interpretation of the verse. To deny that it needs any interpretation is completely disingenuous and ridiculous.
only belief of what it states; i.e., we are "by nature, objects of wrath."
We are born with our nature, born objects of wrath.
See what you did there? You talk about what the text states and then you say something that the text does not state. It does not state that we are "born objects of wrath". Your are inserting your own ideas into scripture that are not taught, so, ironically, you don't just stick to what the text actually states like you think you do.
In your view people are dead in their sins from birth, but Paul said that he was not dead in sins until he became aware of what sin is by way of the law.
Romans 7:9
I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died. 10 And the commandment, which
was to
bring life, I found to
bring death. 11
For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it killed me.
You say that people are born dead in their sins.
Paul said: "I was alive once without the law, but when the commandment came, sin revived and I died".
I will go with what Paul said over what you say every time. He was not born dead in sins, but became dead in sins when becoming aware of sin at which point "the commandment came, sin revived and I died". You don't understand that being born with a sinful nature does not mean that people are condemned from birth, but, rather, means that people will eventually sin when they are old enough to do so. But, no one sins right from birth. No one is condemned from birth. That idea is completely ridiculous. People are condemned for a reason. They are condemned for not repenting and believing. Babies and little children are not capable of doing that, so you have them being condemned for no reason at all. God's wrath is not against people for no reason, as you believe. His wrath is on a person when they sin and rebel against Him and refute to repent and believe. But, He gives people the opportunity to repent and believe so that His wrath is no longer on them. His wrath is not on anyone who is not even capable of sinning or knowing what sin is.
The baby rattlesnakes in my backyard where my children play are as much my enemies as are the adult rattlesnakes there.
Being babies make no difference in one's nature (poisonous, or sinful) in either rattlesnakes or humans.
Babies cannot sin. So, what exactly are they condemned for? For being born? That's ludicrous. John 3:18 talks about people being condemned for rejecting Christ. Babies can't reject Christ.
All those of Adam are born with the sin of Adam accounted/charged/imputed to them (Ro 5:17), which is the pattern (Ro 5:14) for the righteousness of Christ imputed to all those of Christ (Ro 5:18-19).
There are only two groups of people on earth, the condemned (Eph 2:3) and the saved through faith in Jesus Christ (Jn 3:18).
Even the elect stand condemned until they come to saving faith in Jesus Christ (Jn 3:18).
Babies are not able to come to saving faith in Jesus Christ, so I guess this means that you believe all babies who die are condemned to hell?
