Is not Voting a sin even if there are not Good Candidates?

[createdtoworship]

I read an tweet about a young man in southern california that said this:

"I just turned 18, and can legally vote for the first time....and all I get is Hillary or Trump."

Is not Voting a sin even if there are not Good Candidates?

This question comes up often,

I take the stance of Billy Graham's son Franklin Graham who says

"vote for the least heathen"

Recognizing no one is perfect does not get us out of our civic duty to God and Country both- to vote.

Now about sin.

There are sins of commission, or doing the wrong thing.

and sins of omission, which is NOT doing the right thing.

Both in the Bible.

sins of omission are found in the book of James:

James 4:17 (NKJV)
17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.​

Is voting a good thing?

Yes.

So then not doing it, is a sin of omission.

So we need to repent as a country of this sin.

Now a little thing that disturbs me.

Christians can be odd ducks.

1. they will prep for the worse.
2. they will bunker down for armageddon.
3. they will arm themselves to the teeth, against tyranny.

but when given a legal and proper way to battle the enemy (voting), they say....oh no, ...that's for the state, not the church!...the secular, not the sacred!

What does this tell the world about Christians?

Not very intelligent, the group is.

And I know, I ARE ONE.

Again, we need to repent and Follow God.

Even if we don't believe in God, we still need to repent, because there is still a law of nature in us.


Here is a good quote I read this morning:

"THERE is a simple formula which, if we would apply it in all our daily affairs, would make us intelligent and keep us out of trouble: Always think, say and do what is right; refuse to think, say or do what is wrong. ...
The formula contains so much elementary truth that the average person tends instinctively to accept it. Whether he has ever thought of it as a formula or not, he tends to base his life on it. He talks about doing the right thing, getting the right answer, living right, taking time to be right, and so on through a long string of familiar phrases.
He is gifted with an inborn persistent desire to be right in whatever he thinks, says and does, and it is a desire he cannot lightly disregard.
He tries to be right in the logical sense, because only thus can he satisfy his intelligence. He tries to be right in the expedient sense, because only thus can he satisfy his desires. He tries to be right in the moral sense, because only thus can he satisfy his conscience. He knows these three kinds of right comprise the simultaneous ingredients of absolute right, and he gets confused when there is seeming contradiction among them. He gets confused because he has instinctive recognition that they cannot really be contradictory. Despite anything he says to the contrary in his moments of error when he hotly tries to prove a point that is not true, he has instinctive recognition that his failure to achieve absolute right offers simultaneous evidence against his intelligence, against his sense of expediency, and against his morals."
-Richard Weatherill, in His book "the Tower of Babel"
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(my summary of the Above)-Based on the inward law of nature, we tend not to cut in line, and feel remorse when we do. That same remorse happens when we don't give voting an honest effort. Even if we are a non believer in the Bible's morals, this law of nature exists in every human from birth.

 

[High Fidelity]

Is voting a good thing?

That depends.

I think at this point our only moral obligation is towards damage control in some countries.

Rarely are there good candidates and even rarer are there candidates that a Christian could, without hesitation and reluctance, vote for, in my opinion.

It seems quite apparent in some cases people are Republican or Democrat before they're Christian and that is also what determines their vote. They're viewing politicians through a cultural and political lens instead of a Biblical one.

Just because someone is a Republican or Democrat doesn't mean they're good. Take this election cycle for example. Neither are examples of Christian conduct in my opinion and I wouldn't want to vote for either.

It's like being asked if we'd like our arm broken or our leg. Neither options are pleasant and I can't imagine being joyous about either request.

I don't believe it's a sin to note vote. At least not when both options are bad.

 

[nightflight]

Are you a Democrat? Then yes, voting is a sin. Stay home.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Doesn't the bible say something about not involving yourself in worldly pursuits?

When the ultimate destination is heaven, I don't understand why any Christian would bother with the politics of this fallen world. A bit like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, it seems.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Didn't / doesn't anyone watch national news this year ?

As I learned decades ago, proven several times in the last 4 'elections', and many before that,
and as it
was widely admitted on all the news stations, by politicians and/or analysts (political reporters)

that the votes don't count - it doesn't matter IF you vote , NOR WHO you vote for. The winner is picked by other means. (sometimes years ahead of time probably ! ) .

Since the whole system is corrupt, whose kingdom is someone showing loyalty for if they trust the system instead of trusting God to do what God says He will do ?

Trust God. No reason to trust men and draw His curse.
Trust God, and receive His Promised Blessings.

 

[Robert Palase]

I am amazed how American politics is so bound up with religion, it just goes to show that if people allow themselves to believe irrational things they end up making irrational decisions about a lot of other things in their lives.

If any European politician said they looked to an imaginary friend for guidance they would be gone the next day. [and rightly so]

 

[Hieronymus]

Why on earth would it be a sin at all?

 

[Hieronymus]

I am amazed how American politics is so bound up with religion, it just goes to show that if people allow themselves to believe irrational things

You mean like life creating itself ?

 

[Robert Palase]

You mean like life creating itself ?

Life create itself? life does that all the time, I think you mean life created out of nothing.
Either that or we create an imaginary being to create everything out of nothing for us, which one do you like?

 

[Hieronymus]

Either that or we create an imaginary being to create it out of nothing for us, which one do you like?

Life can not create itself, because then it had to have existed prior to its existence.
Same goes for our fine tuned universe.
So you know the answer when you use your brain.

 

[Robert Palase]

error

 

[Robert Palase]

Life can not create itself,

Life creates itself all the time, it's what life does.

because then it had to have existed prior to its existence.

Like your God?

Same goes for our fine tuned universe.

If the universe was not as it is we would not be here like we are.

So you know the answer when you use your brain.

As you would.

 

[Robert Palase]

You mean like life creating itself ?

Life can not create itself, because then it had to have existed prior to its existence.
Same goes for our fine tuned universe.
So you know the answer when you use your brain.

You completely ignored my question as usual, I asked:
Either that or we create an imaginary being to create it out of nothing for us, which one do you like?

 

[Hieronymus]

Life creates itself all the time, it's what life does.

Nope, life begets life.
You actually do know this, i'm sure.

 

[Hieronymus]

You completely ignored my question as usual, I asked:
Either that or we create an imaginary being to create it out of nothing for us, which one do you like?

Then you didn't get my answer either.
Maybe i shouldn't have tried to make you think about it, it seems that doesn't work.

Anyway, voting.
Why would it be a sin not to vote?

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

Are you a Democrat? Then yes, voting is a sin. Stay home.

Do you vote based on what political party they are and you are?

 

[createdtoworship]

Why on earth would it be a sin at all?

do the math.

if voting is a good thing.

and the Bible verse says "to Him who knows to do good, and does not do it..."

then says...

"to Him it is sin."

So it's an individualized idea.

If I know I should do something, and it's too hard and I don't do it.

it's still a sin.

it doesn't go away, because I don't like it.


James 4:17 (NKJV)
17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.

So the only rebuttal to this logic,

is either the Bible is wrong....

or Voting is not good....

and either point would need to be discussed.

 

[createdtoworship]

Hey guys, please keep it on topic of voting, not Creation Evolution.

It's just that if I reply to this topic (which too is very passionate to me),

it will be off topic as well.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Why on earth would it be a sin at all?

By raising up people's estimation of themselves beyond what God's Word says,
it is possible the enemy of Christ has created a lot of false, vain, and sinful pride and trust in a system that is ungodly.
Since
as Jesus said, the truth is called a lie, and the lie is called 'truth',
so likewise doing what is right is called a sin today,
and sinning is rather approved and popular,
thus topsy turvy sinful world we live in,
with thoroughly evil society,
as in Noah's day.

 

[Robert Palase]

Nope, life begets life.
You actually do know this, i'm sure.

Yes life creates life, if there is no life there is no life.
How did life start? the first thing we do is say 'we don't know' we then start to look for the answer,
what we don't do is make up some imaginary supernatural being and say that it created life, we don't do that for two reasons, first we still haven't answer the question of where did life come from and second we have now created an unanswerable question of where did the supernatural being come from..