Is not Voting a sin even if there are not Good Candidates?

[createdtoworship]

Doesn't the bible say something about not involving yourself in worldly pursuits?

When the ultimate destination is heaven, I don't understand why any Christian would bother with the politics of this fallen world. A bit like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, it seems.

Or the phrase,

"so heavenly minded they are no earthly good."

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Why discuss it ? The Bible is always right. No discussion there.
And
It was proven long ago that voting is wrong.
God punished His people when they voted.
People today are punished by the system that's been put in place since early 1900's or before then.
Those who try to do what is right are punished,
and those who go along with the system are punished,
and it's getting worse daily, dramatically.

do the math.

if voting is a good thing.

and the Bible verse says "to Him who knows to do good, and does not do it..."

then says...

"to Him it is sin."

So it's an individualized idea.

If I know I should do something, and it's too hard and I don't do it.

it's still a sin.

it doesn't go away, because I don't like it.


James 4:17 (NKJV)
17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.

So the only rebuttal to this logic,

is either the Bible is wrong....

or Voting is not good....

and either point would need to be discussed.

 

[createdtoworship]

I am amazed how American politics is so bound up with religion, it just goes to show that if people allow themselves to believe irrational things they end up making irrational decisions about a lot of other things in their lives.

If any European politician said they looked to an imaginary friend for guidance they would be gone the next day. [and rightly so]

When you figure Humanism is just another religion, there really is not a government in the world that is not actually affected by Religion or Faith (rather), than we are.

It's all faith.

some believe in a designer

some believe our God is a rock.

Many of Early americans, be it diest or Christian, were creationists.

(trying not to steer to much into creation evolution, but aiming it still at politics and voting, which is the op)

So I guess what I am trying to say, is that faith is something even athiests do.

It's just a matter of what you place your faith in.

a rock, or the God of the Bible, or Muhammed, or Zues.

So in reality it's not a bad thing to have a government based on hope. (which is the main ingredient of faith)

The opposite idea would be a government based on pessimistic skepticism, in which the government would be susceptible to analysis paralysis on every legislation that came across their table.

so some balance in there is Good.

 

[Robert Palase]

By raising up people's estimation of themselves beyond what God's Word says,
it is possible the enemy of Christ has created a lot of false, vain, and sinful pride and trust in a system that is ungodly.
Since
as Jesus said, the truth is called a lie, and the lie is called 'truth',
so likewise doing what is right is called a sin today,
and sinning is rather approved and popular,
thus topsy turvy sinful world we live in,
with thoroughly evil society,
as in Noah's day.

I would go and live in a monastery if I were you, in that way you could stay away from life altogether.

 

[Hieronymus]

do the math.

Math..?

if voting is a good thing.

Is it? Or is it just distraction?

and the Bible verse says "to Him who knows to do good, and does not do it..."

then says...

"to Him it is sin."

So it's an individualized idea.

I'm not a fan of cut and paste.
We haven't established voting is good either.
Moreover, it is of the world, not of God.

"Good"
God is good, Love is good.
The Law of Christ is Agape.

 

[Hieronymus]

Yes life creates life,

No, BEGETS.
Life is procreated by life, stems from life, it is passed on, not created repeatedly.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

BUT, BUT, BUT --- THERE"S a lot of money to be made ! Oh yeah !
As you said, "of the world".
Has anyone noticed how many times people "vote" to get more money, instead of choosing what is right ?
(practically always)
So then, how can "voting" or the evil system (greedy by their own admission) promoting it be considered "good" ?

Math..?Is it? Or is it just distraction?I'm not a fan of cut and paste.
We haven't established voting is good either.
Moreover, it is of the world, not of God.

"Good"
God is good, Love is good.
The Law of Christ is Agape.

 

[Hieronymus]

How did life start?

Well, it's the most complex phenomenon known, so i think ascribing it to dead unconscious things without a purpose is quite ridiculous.
There is no feesible naturalistic theory to explain it.
That doesn't stop people from believing it, apparently...

 

[Hieronymus]

BUT, BUT, BUT --- THERE"S a lot of money to be made ! Oh yeah !
As you said, "of the world".
Has anyone noticed how many times people "vote" to get more money, instead of choosing what is right ?
(practically always)
So then, how can "voting" or the evil system (greedy by their own admission) promoting it be considered "good" ?

Mark Twain is said to have said:
"If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it."

Politicians are known for not keeping their promises too.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Mark Twain is said to have said:
"If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it."

Politicians are known for not keeping their promises too.

Has the usa kept ANY treaty it ever made ?
Have politicians done anything more good than bad any particular day ? (any country, any politicians)

BUT, this DOES NOT MEAN we do nothing - NO! Not at all.
The Head of All the Universe,
The Ruler of All Eternity,
The Supreme Commander Creator in Charge of all LIFE,
is
watching to see
IF
anyone is looking to HIM,
IF
anyone is calling on HIM for HELP in this time of need.(very desperate , very evil wicked times).
So,
instead of doing what pleases men,
we
can choose to do what pleases God (or at least a few of us can, God willing),
and
pray.
Not
a brief, short , one time noncommittal, non-life-changing prayer, NO!
A
prayer in union with Jesus, to the Father in heaven, Ruler of ALL,
to
accomplish His Plan, His Purpose, Directly, Immediately, Today, and On-going Continually,
as
we rely on Him and trust Him and do all that HE GIVES US TO DO.

 

[aieyiamfu]

I read an tweet about a young man in southern california that said this:

"I just turned 18, and can legally vote for the first time....and all I get is Hillary or Trump."

Is not Voting a sin even if there are not Good Candidates?

This question comes up often,

I take the stance of Billy Graham's son Franklin Graham who says

"vote for the least heathen"

Recognizing no one is perfect does not get us out of our civic duty to God and Country both- to vote.

Now about sin.

There are sins of commission, or doing the wrong thing.

and sins of omission, which is NOT doing the right thing.

Both in the Bible.

sins of omission are found in the book of James:

James 4:17 (NKJV)
17 Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.​

Is voting a good thing?

Yes.

So then not doing it, is a sin of omission.

So we need to repent as a country of this sin.

Now a little thing that disturbs me.

Christians can be odd ducks.

1. they will prep for the worse.
2. they will bunker down for armageddon.
3. they will arm themselves to the teeth, against tyranny.

but when given a legal and proper way to battle the enemy (voting), they say....oh no, ...that's for the state, not the church!...the secular, not the sacred!

What does this tell the world about Christians?

Not very intelligent, the group is.

And I know, I ARE ONE.

Again, we need to repent and Follow God.

Voting is not mentioned in the Bible. It is probably easier to err by voting than by not.

 

[Arcangl86]

I am amazed how American politics is so bound up with religion, it just goes to show that if people allow themselves to believe irrational things they end up making irrational decisions about a lot of other things in their lives.

If any European politician said they looked to an imaginary friend for guidance they would be gone the next day. [and rightly so]

Uh. Are you ignoring the CDU in Germany or the Cornerstone Group in the UK?

 

[keith99]

Voting is not mentioned in the Bible. It is probably easier to err by voting than by not.

I agree, but even going in that direction one need not vote in every single race. When it comes to President one could choose to vote for a minor party candidate or not at all while voting for other offices and propositions.

Not voting sends a message that the person is simply lazy or does not care, going to vote and not voting for just one office says the choices for that office are all bad.

 

[super animator]

There is a thing called third party you know. Vote with your conscience and you conventions.
Evil triumphs when good man do nothing.
By doing nothing, you let evil triumphs.

 

[essentialsaltes]

if voting is a good thing.

How is that established? Not from the Bible, I think.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Life create itself? life does that all the time, I think you mean life created out of nothing.
Either that or we create an imaginary being to create everything out of nothing for us, which one do you like?

You mean the imaginary being who I have a personal relationship with? The One who is with me every moment of every day? The imaginary being who guides me, heals me, comforts me, speaks with me?

That imaginary being ?

 

[Robert Palase]

You mean the imaginary being who I have a personal relationship with? The One who is with me every moment of every day? The imaginary being who guides me, heals me, comforts me, speaks with me?
That imaginary being ?

Yes that's the one.

 

[aieyiamfu]

I agree, but even going in that direction one need not vote in every single race. When it comes to President one could choose to vote for a minor party candidate or not at all while voting for other offices and propositions.

Not voting sends a message that the person is simply lazy or does not care, going to vote and not voting for just one office says the choices for that office are all bad.

You make a good point, I have not voted in 5 years but am consider strategic voting again.

 

[Hieronymus]

-----n.m.-----

 

[Albion]

I don't consider not voting to be a sin, but OTOH, if you don't vote, you are implicitly saying that you're OK with whoever wins. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't vote and then act outraged at what happens.