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Originally posted by Zyon
When I'm around, I'm always no.1
Both.
I was brought up to believe what I do for the past 26 years. It would take something really BIG for me to change my mind.
Eph replies...
I won't be the one to do that...I'm not sent to "change peoples minds"....I preach the truth of Jesus Christ...If the Holy Spirit doesn't move in to "change your mind" about things...
I sure can't...!
( but I'm pullin for ya Zyon )...!
Originally posted by webboffin
If the scripture is not directly from the Holy Bible then I wouldn't consider it Christian
Eph says..
With such a profound statement..I'd have to ask you to clairfy WHICH "Holy Bible"...are you talking about..The KJV Bible or the Latin Volgate...Greek Orthodox Holy Bible..?? Might it be the Roman Cath Holy Bible..?
Or the Mormon Holy Bible..known as the Book or Mormon...?
Everybody has a "Holy Bible" version nowadays....Even the Moonies have theirs...!
On this Christian forum I find it's best to ask...!
( even though I get blasted by just about everybody for doing so )..
Originally posted by EPHRIAM777
Eph wonders to himself..!
WOW....how long before "Christian people" like that tie people to the stake and light a match...!
Eph says
Sorry as a Christian I disagree wholeheartedly with what you wrote Jseek21..
Now if you don't like what this person wrote..just be honest and say so...Don't drag your personal "christian perspective" into it...and claim IT is all knowing of truth...Then claim another can't distinguish truth..!
You know not what you say...WHEN you say it..!
Originally posted by jseek21
EPHERIAM, want something big?
http://www.concernedchristians.org
http://www.utlm.org/
Originally posted by jseek21
Jseek says..
Don't claim that there is no absolutes as all knowing truth
Eph writes...
What would bring you to write that..?? I didn't ever post that...because there ARE absolute truths..! But yours in THIS particular instance..isn't...!
Jseek writes
Flawed logic brews flawed arguements.
Eph replies...
NOW yer making sence again...!
Originally posted by Job_38
Ephraim, our Holy Bible is Gods Word. He promised who would not let His Truth fade and I believe that. Pray you never fall into false belief.
Eph writes..
Now excuse me for being blunt....But I have no idea which "holy bible" you use...I do know there are Mormons floating around this area that have their version of a "holy bible"...
Thankz for the prayer...but according to Jesus Christ and his promises to me....thats not going to happen..!
So ya can rest easy on that one ALREADY being answered...long ago...!
Originally posted by Job_38
Was this to me?
Originally posted by EPHRIAM777
Originally posted by Job_38
Ephraim, our Holy Bible is Gods Word. He promised who would not let His Truth fade and I believe that. Pray you never fall into false belief.
Eph writes..
Now excuse me for being blunt....But I have no idea which "holy bible" you use...I do know there are Mormons floating around this area that have their version of a "holy bible"...
Thankz for the prayer...but according to Jesus Christ and his promises to me....thats not going to happen..!
So ya can rest easy on that one ALREADY being answered...long ago...!
I have a NKJV. I like the KJV due to the fact that it was more of a literal translation. But that does not discredit other translation, they must all be tested (1 John 4)
Originally posted by Katya
I have to say jseek21, that the first site is very interesting. I didn't know that they had a website dedicated to "help"mormons. Interesting to know that if I ever decided to leave, I know where to go.
Originally posted by EPHRIAM777
Originally posted by jseek21
Rephrase...
Havoc this forum may be OPEN DISCUSSION AND DEBATE however this thread is open only to Christians because """""a nonchristian cannot have a say in what is truth and what is not because they do not know truth in the first place. """""" You cannot distinguish that which you have not seen.
End of discussion.
Eph wonders to himself..!
WOW....how long before "Christian people" like that tie people to the stake and light a match...!
Eph says
Sorry as a Christian I disagree wholeheartedly with what you wrote Jseek21..
Now if you don't like what this person wrote..just be honest and say so...Don't drag your personal "christian perspective" into it...and claim IT is all knowing of truth...Then claim another can't distinguish truth..!
You know not what you say...WHEN you say it..!
NOW EPH WRITES...
This would probably be the post in question that brought my friend MIZ to the thread...MY guess would be JSEEK was a bit disturbed by this post..so a quick report of evilness was made about it..and MIZ showed up to make sure all is going well...!
Now MY idea here was to show JSEEK that BIBLICAL TRUTH...and TRUTH in general are NOT the same thing...people who aren't Christian can have TRUTH and know it......What they don't have is Biblical discernment of God's word..IE they can't understand Gods truth..JSEEK failed to distinguish that in his response to Havoc....!
Because those 2 things aren't the SAME..and since Jseek just kinda blew that other person off when challenged by saying a NON Christian can't know truth....Jseek was in error to Do that...
IF your gonna blow someone off that raises a point you can't answer..don't just say "you can't know truth"...to prove your right...!
If you can't answer be honest and say so...don't bring up the fact a person may or may not be a christian..and then claim your right because they can't know truth..( judging a person to not be a Christian THAT way is wrong BTW but thats another thread )...!
In all fairness to his person "Havoc"...I knowing Jseek was wrong to say what they did.....I attempted to point it out to him...So hopefully Jseek could RE think his position on whether it was BIBLICAL TRUTH..or just plain TRUTH and the ability of other non Christians to know it...!
I may be wrong..but I think the point I was trying to make went right over Jseeks head....and appeared to be taken by him as some kind of insult...thus MIZ arriving on the scene...!
I must make a mental note to remember to FIRST check the ages of the posters I correspond with from now on....!
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