Is masturbating bad?

[Ginny]

But I do not think it's fair to keep baiting atheists as you do. Why don't you just leave them alone?

Agreed.

Afterall, this is THEIR site now.

 

[JadeTigress]

Well, I can say this.. If I could do that, I'd never leave the house.

Agreed.

Also, I thought of another question just now. Let's say or some reason a person has a horrible disease that would be passed to his/her partner through sex, both oral and vaginal/anal. I don't know what this disease is, I was just thinking, so just assume that this is the case for the sake of the thread.

So, out of concern for the safety of his partner, he chooses to abstain from sex. But should he have to give up sexual pleasure completely? In a case like this, is there anything wrong with masturbation, or mutual masturbation?

 

[TheManeki]

Agreed.

Afterall, this is THEIR site now.

Ginny, I think you're a little confused here. We're becoming the land of do-as-you-please, with peaceful coexistence and respect in mind. From your custom title, it seems you think things are becoming a land of take-what-you-want, instead. Buck up! If you want, you can still believe in "strength through purity, purity through faith." Nobody's taking that away from you.

 

[Ismene]

I actually think that it is alright,it is better than the alternatives(I hope you know what I mean)I also think that watching porn or looking at dirty pics can be a big part of masturbation and I am pretty sure that it can become an addiction..I recommend not falling into the trend of pornography..that so many people (including myself)have taken part in.....there are Bible versus in which Jesus talks about lust and staying away from things that promote lust and things that lead to lustful thoughts...I know this is a long answer to a very short question..I just wanted to cover the bases....I hope that Jesus will answer this question for you!

 

[MoonlessNight]

Ginny, I think you're a little confused here. We're becoming the land of do-as-you-please, with peaceful coexistence and respect in mind. From your custom title, it seems you think things are becoming a land of take-what-you-want, instead. Buck up! If you want, you can still believe in "strength through purity, purity through faith." Nobody's taking that away from you.

I prefer the land of "do as you should" to "do as thou wilt" personally.

As for the topic one thing that always annoys me about masturbation related topics is that the abstaining position is always filled with vast speculation, the thought that if you don't touch or have sex that your sex drive will boil over and be uncontrollable being perhaps most common, while everyone agrees that people who abstain from sex completely are at least rare (and some of you probably believe that they don't exist). I really don't see the situation as much different from those anti-masturbation wives tales that you hear.

 

[chaz345]

Agreed.

Also, I thought of another question just now. Let's say or some reason a person has a horrible disease that would be passed to his/her partner through sex, both oral and vaginal/anal. I don't know what this disease is, I was just thinking, so just assume that this is the case for the sake of the thread.

So, out of concern for the safety of his partner, he chooses to abstain from sex. But should he have to give up sexual pleasure completely? In a case like this, is there anything wrong with masturbation, or mutual masturbation?

Mutual masturbation is an entirely different thing that self masturbation. The aspect of masturbation that causes problems in a relationship is the self oriented nature of it.

 

[AlanGurvey]

Agreed.

Afterall, this is THEIR site now.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaa that evil demonic atheist conspiracy

 

[JadeTigress]

Mutual masturbation is an entirely different thing that self masturbation. The aspect of masturbation that causes problems in a relationship is the self oriented nature of it.

Ok, let's change the scenario then.

Let's say he/she couldn't have any sort of sexual contact with a partner at all. No oral, vaginal/anal, or mutual masturbation.

So should he/she have to live without any sort of sexual pleasure, or would masturbation then be alright?

 

[Ohioprof]

Well, I can say this.. If I could do that, I'd never leave the house.

LOL!

 

[Ohioprof]

Agreed.

Afterall, this is THEIR site now.

Heck, no. The site is for everyone.

 

[Ohioprof]

Mutual masturbation is an entirely different thing that self masturbation. The aspect of masturbation that causes problems in a relationship is the self oriented nature of it.

Why is that a problem? There are plenty of activities that people do by themselves, for themselves. Nothing wrong with that that I can see.

 

[JadeTigress]

Why is that a problem? There are plenty of activities that people do by themselves, for themselves. Nothing wrong with that that I can see.

That's what I thought, too. But being both inexperienced sexually and a non-christian, I apparently am thinking wrong. I'm sure once I have sex, all of life's answers will become clear to me, and I'll realize why masturbation is so evil.

 

[chaz345]

Ok, let's change the scenario then.

Let's say he/she couldn't have any sort of sexual contact with a partner at all. No oral, vaginal/anal, or mutual masturbation.

So should he/she have to live without any sort of sexual pleasure, or would masturbation then be alright?

Let me ask a clarifying question first.

In your opinion, is sexual pleasure essential to a happy fulfilling life? Is it something that anyone has ever died without?

 

[JadeTigress]

Let me ask a clarifying question first.

In your opinion, is sexual pleasure essential to a happy fulfilling life? Is it something that anyone has ever died without?

No, you wouldn't die without it. But, in my experience, sexual pleasure is extremely fulfilling, and only makes me happier. When I go without it for long periods of time, I can notice a difference in my level of happiness. Life, it seems, becomes dull, and I become much more apathetic. Depending on the severity, my relationships sometimes begin to suffer.

Also, I am a very creative person. I love to write and draw and create all sorts of art, and I've found that my level of creativity corresponds to my level of sexual fulfillment. If I get less, I get apathetic as I was talking about earlier, and due to this my creativity goes way down. When I get sexual fulfillment, all that sexual energy helps me to create my art.

 

[chaz345]

No, you wouldn't die without it. But, in my experience, sexual pleasure is extremely fulfilling, and only makes me happier. When I go without it for long periods of time, I can notice a difference in my level of happiness. Life, it seems, becomes dull, and I become much more apathetic. Depending on the severity, my relationships sometimes begin to suffer.

Also, I am a very creative person. I love to write and draw and create all sorts of art, and I've found that my level of creativity corresponds to my level of sexual fulfillment. If I get less, I get apathetic as I was talking about earlier, and due to this my creativity goes way down. When I get sexual fulfillment, all that sexual energy helps me to create my art.

Thanks for the answer.

It is my belief that the primary purpose of sexual pleasure is to build oneness with one's spouse and so any activity that involves sexual pleasure, but not one's spouse, is wrong.

In your hypothetical example, masturbating with the spouse watching would, IMO, be fine because they are participating to the degree possible.

 

[Ginny]

Heck, no. The site is for everyone.

Good one.

 

[MoonlessNight]

No, you wouldn't die without it. But, in my experience, sexual pleasure is extremely fulfilling, and only makes me happier. When I go without it for long periods of time, I can notice a difference in my level of happiness. Life, it seems, becomes dull, and I become much more apathetic. Depending on the severity, my relationships sometimes begin to suffer.

To be honest I have the opposite effect happen to me, at least in regards to masturbation. Though it could be that I'm just defective that way.

 

[JadeTigress]

One more scenario for everyone. If I think of something later, I'll post it, but this is the only other one I can think of for now.

My partner and I live about 5 hours away from each other. Because of this, we don't get to see each other that often. Thus, we havn't experience much sexually with each other (this is the main reason why I'm still a virgin ). Anyway, we're obviously going to get urges, but because we don't get to see each other that often, we can't really get our sexual fulfillment from each other. All we're able to do is make the need worse. So, in a situation like this, where we'd like to be sexual with each other but can't due to circumstances beyond our control, is masturbation ok?

 

[YoungJoonKim]

I can't take any of propaganda..
I don't believe that my 6 years of struggle is wasted for this.
Its not pride..its the truth. Addiction is painful and is valuable experience that teaches *me and many other*, "Don't do it"
It can't get simpler than that.
Its no good.
You have penis for interaction with your counterpart, thats just biologically normal. Doing masturbation is to abuse your sexual life. Its wrong.
*cough*

 

[JadeTigress]

I can't take any of propaganda..
I don't believe that my 6 years of struggle is wasted for this.
Its not pride..its the truth. Addiction is painful and is valuable experience that teaches *me and many other*, "Don't do it"
It can't get simpler than that.
Its no good.
You have penis for interaction with your counterpart, thats just biologically normal. Doing masturbation is to abuse your sexual life. Its wrong.
*cough*

What if your hand is your counterpart...

Also, I don't have a penis, so that means I can touch, right?