Is Mary a source of Holiness?

[Benedicta00]

no. Mary did not die on the cross for me. Jesus did. It is from HIM everything flows...In Him I move, and live and have my being. THAT is Bible. NO where does it say anything about Mary. SORRY...she is a vessel God used (NO did NOT discard afterwards before anyone jumps on that)...

Beloved,

please believe me when I say this is a strawman. Catholics don't believe Mary saved us... Don't listen to those who keep insisting we believe this. It's nothing more than a ugly lie being told...

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

Didn't the the fount of all holiness come to us through her womb? A simple yes or no will do...

Didn't our salvation which is from God come to us through her womb? A simple yes or no will suffice...

Didn't the source of divine grace come to us from God through her womb?

yes or no... was Mary the "vessel" in which God chose to send us the Word made flesh?

The answer is undoubtly yes, so in that sense and in that sense only (don't come back with some nonsense that we think this makes her savior) all the wonderful things from god came to us through her.

Thus she is the source and its only said in a figurative way, not literal but I realize that is the only way you wish to interpret this so you can have yet another bone to pick with Catholicism.

nice sarcasm there. Simple yes or no...DID Mary DIE for you? Then NO, she IS NOT the source of holiness.

 

[HisBelovedMelody]

Beloved,

please believe me when I say this is a strawman. Catholics don't believe Mary saved us... Don't listen to those who keep insisting we believe this. It's nothing more than a ugly lie being told...

read what I wrote..NOT your assumption of what I said....

 

[Benedicta00]

nice sarcasm there. Simple yes or no...DID Mary DIE for you? Then NO, she IS NOT the source of holiness.

okay... so its like that. So much for trying to reason with people. Believe what you want about us.
I really don't care anymore.

 

[IamAdopted]

Didn't the the fount of all holiness come to us through her womb? A simple yes or no will do...

Didn't our salvation which is from God come to us through her womb? A simple yes or no will suffice...

Didn't the source of divine grace come to us from God through her womb?

yes or no... was Mary the "vessel" in which God chose to send us the Word made flesh?

The answer is undoubtly yes, so in that sense and in that sense only (don't come back with some nonsense that we think this makes her savior) all the wonderful things from god came to us through her.

Thus she is the source and its only said in a figurative way, not literal but I realize that is the only way you wish to interpret this so you can have yet another bone to pick with Catholicism.

Actually He came from God the Father.. Because He was with God the Father from the beginning.. No Grace comes from Mary.. She is the recipient of this Grace and not the giver of... For truth comes from Christ.. Mary being the vessel to which God was made flesh.. But she is not Grace giver, she is not the way to Jesus. For it is the Holy Spirit that draws us to Jesus..

 

[HisKid1973]

And we protestants get harassed for just sticking to the scriptures given to us by the apostles..What is so crazy to be just trusting what the orignal apostles left us?

 

[Uphill Battle]

I would have said "yes" to God, wouldn't you?

I think at least 50% or more of women would have said "yes". Why wouldn't they?

I'm afraid I have to disagree with this statement.... I don't think 50% would say yes, as ALL of us have said NO at one point or another.

Theoretically, other women out there at the time would have said yes... but God chose Mary for his specific reasonings. She was God's Chosen for the purpose.

I don't like the implication that God couldn't have done it without her, no mere human can thwart God, but he chose whom he would, and Mary was his choice. She should be called blessed like the scripture states.

 

[IamAdopted]

I also agree that Mary was blessed among women.. For it is God whom Chose her.. His reasons He did not state.. She was very blessed among woman to be the chosen one to birth our saviour and King.. This does not however put her in a place higher than other women.. For since she was blessed as Gods Vessel so are we as Christ bearers in this fallen world.. For God blesses each one with a gift..

 

[Tyndale]

Why don't Christians venerate/worship Elijah's mother, Abel's Mother, or Abrahams's mother?

 

[IamAdopted]

Why don't Christians venerate/worship Elijah's mother, Abel's Mother, or Abrahams's mother?

Good question.. Why do people not vennerate King David? He as a man after Gods own heart..

 

[Benedicta00]

And we protestants get harassed for just sticking to the scriptures given to us by the apostles..What is so crazy to be just trusting what the orignal apostles left us?

Did Jesus come to us through Mary's body, yes or no?

 

[IamAdopted]

Did Jesus come to us through Mary's body, yes or no?

Do we go to Jesus through Marys body?

 

[Benedicta00]

Actually He came from God the Father.. Because He was with God the Father from the beginning.. No Grace comes from Mary.. She is the recipient of this Grace and not the giver of... For truth comes from Christ.. Mary being the vessel to which God was made flesh.. But she is not Grace giver, she is not the way to Jesus. For it is the Holy Spirit that draws us to Jesus..

I never made those claims... but I asked you a simple question in which you seem to never want to just answer.

Did Mary come to us trough Jesus, yes or no?

 

[Benedicta00]

Do we go to Jesus through Marys body?

no.

your turn, Did Jesus come to us through Mary's body, yes or no?

 

[IamAdopted]

Yes Jesus became flesh through Marys body..

 

[Iollain]

.......and the Holy Ghost.

 

[IamAdopted]

Yes Jesus became flesh through Marys body..

But is was God whom conceived Him by the power of the Holy Spirit.. So therefore all Holiness is in God..

 

[FrauleinElsa]

no.

your turn, Did Jesus come to us through Mary's body, yes or no?

Yes, but only to be born. Birth has nothig to do with what is being discussed. Let's get real here. You want us to say that no one comes to faith in Jesus except through His mother, that salvation first comes from her. And as Prostestants we just aren't going to say that because

a) that theology is found no where in the Bible and
b) that's not what we believe to be true.

 

[Axion]

And we protestants get harassed for just sticking to the scriptures given to us by the apostles..What is so crazy to be just trusting what the orignal apostles left us?

What the Apostles gave to us, was not a book of Scriptures, but a living Church. It is sad that so many see the need to diverge from what that Church taught to follow new ideas of their own.

 

[FrauleinElsa]

What the Apostles gave to us, was not a book of Scriptures, but a living Church. It is sad that so many see the need to diverge from what that Church taught to follow new ideas of their own.

You mean the Church. Please explain your position.