is listing to rock and rap a sin?

[Shizzle]

When it tends to glorify them or make them appear to be the cool thing to do.

and then we can all hide inside plastic bubbles because we dont want to be influenced by the world to sin, were not idiots who are going to let verbal concious thought sway us that easily

 

[JunkYardDog]

and then we can all hide inside plastic bubbles because we dont want to be influenced by the world to sin, were not idiots who are going to let verbal concious thought sway us that easily

There is no way to avoid some things that are thrust at us from every direction, but that is different from choosing to expose yourself to such things. Your choice is a vote in your mind in favor of the messages you are getting. Whether you realize it or not, your attitudes are being altered. Why do you think we are to subject our own minds to the "washing of the water of the word"?

I'm not arguing against STYLES of music. There is no innately evil style. What I'm saying is to be careful what you chose to listen to. It will affect you. Scripture tells us, "Evil communications corrupt good behavior." The word translatied communications is "homilia" from which we get our English homily. A homily is a sermon. Every song is a sermon -- with music. It is intended to make you feel and think a certain way. All I say is, "Be careful."

 

[LukeBritt]

I'm going to build a bubble town where all we have is Christian bookstores and Chick-Fil-A and Church and the Southern Baptist Convention.

 

[.Mikha'el.]

When it tends to glorify them or make them appear to be the cool thing to do.

I also think that just mentioning them can be a sort of unintentional promotion.

 

[Shizzle]

I'm going to build a bubble town where all we have is Christian bookstores and Chick-Fil-A and Church and the Southern Baptist Convention.

why a chikfila
then well all die of thier poor ketchup quality
if you build a bubble town, make sure to have a bush

 

[Shizzle]

Scripture tells us, "Evil communications corrupt good behavior."

i believe thats referring to the, "and let your communication be yes yes or no no, anything else is from satan" thing because they both use communication, whereas the words in a song arent communication but a complex idea

 

[Robert the Pilegrim]

People tell me that listing to rap and rock is a sin but i not sure. so i want to know what you think of it

No, but IMO recreational listening to music that glorifies sin and degrades God's creation, including our fellow human beings is a sin.

 

[JunkYardDog]

i believe thats referring to the, "and let your communication be yes yes or no no, anything else is from satan" thing because they both use communication, whereas the words in a song arent communication but a complex idea

Shiz,

You've said some silly things before but this has to be the silliest. "The words in a song are not communication"? Where did you ever come up with that? Songs usually are stronger communicators than words alone. Are there songs you hear that move you emotionally? If there are, have someone simply read the words to you and you will see how much LESS communication is going on.

The verse you cite does not say that yes and no are the only communications in the world -- or how could we get anything from the words of Jesus?

1 Corinthians 14:10
10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.

 

[Nikolas222]

no not a sin. that is bs. to really be a sin, it must be an act or thought that goes against the greatest commandment, that of love. who are you harming? granted many lyrics focus on killing or robbing banks, but its music. i use music as a release from anger, and this music is fine.

i think this so-called "christian music" is the most harmful if any music is sinful. it keeps those who listen to it away from gods real message and plan. when i say christian music, i dont mean hymns or chants, or prayers. i mean the **** that involves the electric guitars and stuff. it gives a seriously impared vision of what Jesus' life was worth. most songs are like "oh jesus i love you, blah blah blah we hold your cross." i doubt anyone listened to this stuff centurys ago and if the apostles were living they would condemn it.

jesus died so we could live life, and these songs focus on the sacrifice, not the miracle.

i doubt jesus wants us to concentrate on the nails going through his hands, but to focus on the ressurection if anything. he died to give life, and that life is not just after death but now.

live it

 

[JunkYardDog]

no not a sin. that is bs. to really be a sin, it must be an act or thought that goes against the greatest commandment, that of love. who are you harming? granted many lyrics focus on killing or robbing banks, but its music. i use music as a release from anger, and this music is fine.

Is it love for God to choose to listen to music that glorifies sin -- which God hates?

Philippians 4:8
8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

i think this so-called "christian music" is the most harmful if any music is sinful. it keeps those who listen to it away from gods real message and plan. when i say christian music, i dont mean hymns or chants, or prayers. i mean the **** that involves the electric guitars and stuff. it gives a seriously impared vision of what Jesus' life was worth. most songs are like "oh jesus i love you, blah blah blah we hold your cross." i doubt anyone listened to this stuff centurys ago and if the apostles were living they would condemn it.

When you see what the apostles preached, it was the CROSS and the ressurection. Both are necessary parts of the message.

1 Corinthians 2:2
2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

I think the apostles may condemn some of the shallow Christian music, but do you think they would applaud listening to "gangsta' rap"?

jesus died so we could live life, and these songs focus on the sacrifice, not the miracle.

Jesus died so we could live IN ETERNITY. Foe now Jesus said:

Matthew 10:39
39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

Mark 8:35-36
35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.
36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

Luke 9:24-25
24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
25 For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?

John 12:25
25 He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.

When something Jesus said is repeated in all four Gospels, it is probably worth paying attention.

i doubt jesus wants us to concentrate on the nails going through his hands, but to focus on the ressurection if anything. he died to give life, and that life is not just after death but now.

live it

Is that why He showed them the nail holes in his hands and the spear hole in His side? Is that why Paul says he is determined to know nothing among the people he preaches to except Jesus Christ and Him crucified?

 

[Paleoconservatarian]

no not a sin. that is bs. to really be a sin, it must be an act or thought that goes against the greatest commandment, that of love.

And those rappers are all about love.

who are you harming?

Yourself. You're probably also setting up a stumbling block for others.

granted many lyrics focus on killing or robbing banks, but its music.
i use music as a release from anger, and this music is fine.

You think the God of Abraham will hear these excuses? I can't imagine Christ bouncing to that sort of stuff.

i think this so-called "christian music" is the most harmful if any music is sinful. it keeps those who listen to it away from gods real message and plan. when i say christian music, i dont mean hymns or chants, or prayers. i mean the **** that involves the electric guitars and stuff. it gives a seriously impared vision of what Jesus' life was worth. most songs are like "oh jesus i love you, blah blah blah we hold your cross." i doubt anyone listened to this stuff centurys ago and if the apostles were living they would condemn it.

But they'd approve of the stuff you listen to.

jesus died so we could live life, and these songs focus on the sacrifice, not the miracle.

And pagan songs not only ignore the miracle, but focus on spitting on the cross. I'm no fan of today's Christian music, but I think I know which is worse.

i doubt jesus wants us to concentrate on the nails going through his hands, but to focus on the ressurection if anything. he died to give life, and that life is not just after death but now.

Yet he'd want us to concentrate on killing and robbing banks.

live it

That's the point. Which life are you living? You cannot proclaim Christ and not live in, by, and for him.

If you want to go on the offensive against contemporary Christian music, go ahead. I might just join you in that. But first you're going to want to take care of this.

 

[smokeytiger2]

No I don't think listening to rap or rock is a sin.

 

[Shizzle]

me neither

 

[Robert the Pilegrim]

and then we can all hide inside plastic bubbles because we dont want to be influenced by the world to sin,

Who is talking about hiding inside plastic bubbles?

I am talking about choosing to listen to, and demonstrate your support for, music that glorifies sin.

The style of the music is irrelevant, there is nothing inherently sinful with rap or rock or heavy metal or punk or classical.

 

[Paleoconservatarian]

Who is talking about hiding inside plastic bubbles?

I am talking about choosing to listen to, and demonstrate your support for, music that glorifies sin.

The style of the music is irrelevant, there is nothing inherently sinful with rap or rock or heavy metal or punk or classical.

Inherently sinful, no. Inherently distasteful...

 

[LukeBritt]

Chick-Fil-A is owned by a Christian, Truett Cathy. We should go to restaurants and stores that are owned by believers. Saying that, we should only live in my isolated town full of Christian books, especially Your Best Life Now and then we could sing to Michael W. Smith worship. Oh, I love This is the Air I Breathe. We should then wear only Christian tennis shoes. ( http://www.heavenlygearapparel.com/ ) And then we can buy everything from Christian vendors. ( www.evangeltech.com )
We all know that Skillet is the best rock band in the country and that the Left Behind movies use incredible ground-breaking, premillenial effects. C'mon guys, join me in ChristianTown, located in Lynchburg, VA.

 

[Paleoconservatarian]

Chick-Fil-A is owned by a Christian, Truett Cathy. We should go to restaurants and stores that are owned by believers. Saying that, we should only live in my isolated town full of Christian books, especially Your Best Life Now and then we could sing to Michael W. Smith worship. Oh, I love This is the Air I Breathe. We should then wear only Christian tennis shoes. ( http://www.heavenlygearapparel.com/ ) And then we can buy everything from Christian vendors. ( www.evangeltech.com )
We all know that Skillet is the best rock band in the country and that the Left Behind movies use incredible ground-breaking, premillenial effects. C'mon guys, join me in ChristianTown, located in Lynchburg, VA.

Why create the dichotomy? If you think that rap and rock can be sinful, you necessarily believe that we should live in Bibletown? Both sides of the argument are looking for a perfectly safe, self-pleasing gospel. One side wants to do as the pagans and still be Christian. The other wants to do as the pagans, but put a Christian face on it. (Disclaimer: I'm not calling anyone a pagan. Or a Christian).

 

[LukeBritt]

Well, God called us to be separate, so we should have different schools, magazines, music, food and drink, entertainment, and it should all be second class. Sounds like a good plan, doesn't it?


Luke.


sarcasm

 

[Paleoconservatarian]

Well, God called us to be separate, so we should have different schools, magazines, music, food and drink, entertainment, and it should all be second class. Sounds like a good plan, doesn't it?


Luke.


sarcasm

I guess for the evangelical consumer who has everything, that sounds like Christmas all over again. But for folks like me... well, we aren't even saying the same things you hear from evangellyfluffs.

 

[LukeBritt]

"Christian music: it's like imposter cologne" - Russell Moore, author of The Kingdom of Christ.