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I'm just hesitant on adding Black Sabbath songs to my collection due to the name of the band now. If an individual song doesn't bother me, then I won't be bothered.I'd be careful with some of these supposed quotes, plus there's just too much to contradict it. Geezer Butler has said many times that he dabbled in the occult in 1969, got into it, visited magic stores, and one time believed he conjured up an evil spirit. It scared him so badly that he said he never messed with it again....The band had an upside down cross in the sleeve of their first album. The record company put it in there against their will. They always wore crosses on the stage, and when some Satanic weirdos showed up at many of their concerts, they said it was disconcerting and not the demographic they had hoped for.
Black Sabbath is the title of an old, cheesy movie. And with songs like "After Forever" that encourage faith and affirming Christ, it really muddies the waters. Heavy metal was more of a horror spook movie genre and real Satanism and legitimate demonology with these guys is doubtful.
For me, Dio was my favorite singer for Sabbath. My favorite Sabbath tune of all time is most definitely "Children of the Sea." Incredible and beautiful. Most Sabbath songs just use those tough-sounding E and F power chords and they tune down. It sounds more menacing that it is.
I remember people getting their underwear wadded up about the line "just like witches at Black Masses!" in the song "War Pigs." The point wasn't Satanic. The lyric is comparing Vietnam War generals to a bunch of fiendish violent witches celebrating the destruction they've created.
I'm not a huge fan or anything, I just think these guys were a bunch of drunken Brits who grew up in a bad way. They lived in Birmingham, England during the post-WWII era and they said the crime, poverty, and black coal and pollution gave them a different perspective on life than the rosy naivete of hippies in the rest of the world. They wanted to make hippies take a chill pill. LOL So they had a darker take on life looking at what humanity had done in the wake of post-War UK.
But hey, that's just my take. I prefer Iron Maiden, another band accused of Old Nick-lovin' LOL
Do you think it'd be wrong to buy a song from Osborne because that would mean I would be supporting evil?I live in Nashville, Music City USA.
We have some musicians and music industry people in our parish.
We have celebrity guests every now and then.
imho - this is just me; what you choose for entertainment is a personal choice for your own benefit or detriment. Choose wisely.
I'm just hesitant on adding Black Sabbath songs to my collection due to the name of the band now. If an individual song doesn't bother me, then I won't be bothered.
What's your take on the lyrics of Mr. Crowley?
I have a song by Ozzy in my iTunes library, one, and not likely your first guess.Do you think it'd be wrong to buy a song from Osborne because that would mean I would be supporting evil?
So it is not sinful to give Osborne, or his record company, money for a song that isn't objectionable?I have a song by Ozzy in my iTunes library, one, and not likely your first guess.
I can like music in spite of the lyric and sometimes I like the lyric in spite of the music.
I have a wide variety of material in my library/collection, including some relaitively current material (e.g. I think 'Ain't it Fun' by Paramour is one of the most well crafted, well produced pop tunes I've heard in years).
I grew up in the 70s, graduated H.S. in 1981.. college/career in the 80s. I was a 'pop music' guy, with a tendency to favor the "The" bands (The Knack, The Pretenders, The Producers, The Tubes..The.. etc.). I don't listen to it very much now, but I get a nostalgic streak every now and again. Ozzy wasn't my thing. I did see Van Halen with D.L.R three times. I liked Toto from the first album and have all of their albums except the one with the cover tunes and the collections/hits compilations.
I have good friends that tour with 'name-brand' artists, they're not bad people. Like I said, we have some artists, musicians and industry people in our parish. They're just making a living playing guitar just like I try to make a living making the electronic media junk work in this building.
I don't know that i can answer the question for you.
I try not to ascribe too much either way to popular music.
otoh, I deeply appreciate the care the Church has taken to maintain the integrity of the hymns/chants we have in our services, this is a much more important issue for me - and I was a every week "Praise Band" member in my former evangelical church (Nashville joke; You are 'so Nashville' if you lose your record contract and get kicked out of the praise band at church. - which is funny here because it has an element of truth to it).
I don't know, that's not my jurisdiction. What may/may not be sinful for me could impact you very differently. If the song gives rise to passions that are sinful then it would be best avoided. If not, then it's not for me to judge.So it is not sinful to give Osborne, or his record company, money for a song that isn't objectionable?
I have a song by Ozzy in my iTunes library, one, and not likely your first guess.
I can like music in spite of the lyric and sometimes I like the lyric in spite of the music.
I have a wide variety of material in my library/collection, including some relaitively current material (e.g. I think 'Ain't it Fun' by Paramour is one of the most well crafted, well produced pop tunes I've heard in years).
I grew up in the 70s, graduated H.S. in 1981.. college/career in the 80s. I was a 'pop music' guy, with a tendency to favor the "The" bands (The Knack, The Pretenders, The Producers, The Tubes..The.. etc.). I don't listen to it very much now, but I get a nostalgic streak every now and again. Ozzy wasn't my thing. I did see Van Halen with D.L.R three times. I liked Toto from the first album and have all of their albums except the one with the cover tunes and the collections/hits compilations.
I have good friends that tour with 'name-brand' artists, they're not bad people. Like I said, we have some artists, musicians and industry people in our parish. They're just making a living playing guitar just like I try to make a living making the electronic media junk work in this building.
I don't know that i can answer the question for you.
I try not to ascribe too much either way to popular music.
otoh, I deeply appreciate the care the Church has taken to maintain the integrity of the hymns/chants we have in our services, this is a much more important issue for me - and I was a every week "Praise Band" member in my former evangelical church (Nashville joke; You are 'so Nashville' if you lose your record contract and get kicked out of the praise band at church. - which is funny here because it has an element of truth to it).
as an aside, I will say I agree with gurney that Miley Cyrus's of the world are far worse. because it's everything sensual in a cute, far more approachable package.
Miley Cyrus establishes a double standard. She can pose nude kissing a sledgehammer and people call it "art" or, "edgy".as an aside, I will say I agree with gurney that Miley Cyrus's of the world are far worse. because it's everything sensual in a cute, far more approachable package.
In a head to head matchup, Ronny James Dio slays Miley every time.
Miley Cyrus establishes a double standard. She can pose nude kissing a sledgehammer and people call it "art" or, "edgy".
When I tried the same thing at Home Depot, I got banned for life!
it's because of Home Depot. try it again at Lowe's.
Miley Cyrus establishes a double standard. She can pose nude kissing a sledgehammer and people call it "art" or, "edgy".
When I tried the same thing at Home Depot, I got banned for life!
Actually try Sears. With the way they’ve been sliding down for years, they could use the publicity!!!Posing inappropriately with Craftsman socket sets!
Miley Cyrus establishes a double standard. She can pose nude kissing a sledgehammer and people call it "art" or, "edgy".
When I tried the same thing at Home Depot, I got banned for life!
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