Is it wrong that I keep Shabbat and do not "go to church" on Sunday?

[ace of hearts]

Genesis 2:2–2:3
2"And on the seventh day Elohim finished the work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all the work that he had done. 3So Elohim blessed the seventh day and hallowed it, because on it Elohim rested from all the work that he had done in creation."

Oh, I see, you're saying the seventh day is not the Sabbath?

Correct the 7th day and the sabbath are two different items. The sabbath is observed by some on our 7th day of the week.

 

[ace of hearts]

Exodus 20:11

"For in six days Yahuah made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore Yahuah blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy."

The Sabbath points directly back to the true Creator...remember?

Define the word "therefore."

 

[ace of hearts]

Ephesians 2:14
"For he is our peace who made the two one, and he destroyed the wall that was standing in the middle."

Yeah, the Good News is, in Messiah, that division is gone, which is why we get to walk as He walked!

No one does this in the sense you mean.

 

[ace of hearts]

That is not quite true. For gentiles yes. However, early, early Christians would have been in the synagogues if they were "Ger Toshav", not quite full converts to Judaism but following the Laws given by James (Noahide laws). While there, they would have heard Torah every Shabbat.

Hearing Torah isn't hearing Jesus. Jesus wasn't preached in the synagogue every sabbath or any sabbath for that matter. And Jesus isn't preached in the synagogue these days either.

 

[ace of hearts]

Yes. Please do.

John 14:12
Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

Matthew 10:8
Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give.

To add - what about walking on water or commanding the wind to be still.

 

[ace of hearts]

Romans 6:16
"Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey--whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?"

To be under the law, simply means you are disobedient.

When you are walking in obedience you are, essentially above the law.

In Messiah, we are obedient to the Law, though, as you pointed out, we are still battling with the flesh.

But, that is why we must continually repent for being disobedient (under the law) and strive to follow our Master.

This we do, by the power of His Spirit within us.

No if you obey the law you're controlled by it.

 

[ace of hearts]

Understand that. These very early Christians were however even allowed in the Temple.

These very early Christians were Jews. So your point is invalid.

 

[ace of hearts]

Not true in Acts 13 - "they asked that the Gospel be preached again to them the next Sabbath".

Also in Acts 17 - 3 Sabbaths in a row -- Gospel preaching in the Synagogue. Not just "A believer sitting in the Synagogue" but actual preaching.

And of course in Acts 18:4 "every Sabbath" there was gospel preaching.

This was the common fare in the synagogue. So since you use this to mean a requirement to attend synagogue, why aren't you doing so?

 

[ace of hearts]

James was in the Temple and synagogues all the time

James was a Jew.

 

[Saint Steven]

To add - what about walking on water or commanding the wind to be still.

Exactly.
These folks want to claim they are following Christ's example by going to church on Saturday and saying nice things about the TCs. But what was it really like?

Wandering from town to town with a band of homeless men casting out demons and healing the sick. Risking their lives by going into the synagogues to provoke the religious status quo. Raising the dead, healing lepers... Model that.

 

[Saint Steven]

…
Romans 3:31
"Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law."

Here is what we find in context.

Romans 3:19, 21, 28
19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. ...
21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. ...
28 For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

 

[Tone]

If that is what "under" means (I disagree) then why would the Apostle Paul say he is "under" Christ's law?

Furthermore, why would the Apostle say this? (see below) Who would "want" to be under the "condemnation" of the law?

Galatians 4:21
Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says?

I sure don't want to be under the condemnation of the law.

 

[Saint Steven]

I sure don't want to be under the condemnation of the law.

Right.
Read Galatians 4:21-31 to find out who does.

 

[Tone]

No if you obey the law you're controlled by it.

Messiah obeyed it perfectly. If you have His Spirit, you tell me what you do with it.

 

[Tone]

Right.
Read Galatians 4:21-31 to find out who does.

I know who does...the unbelieving and unrepentant.

Have you repented of your murders ...your adulteries...your thefts...your lies...your dishonor to parents...your covetousness...

How about your rejection of the Sabbath?

Have you asked for forgiveness of these things and been granted the righteousness of Yahshua ha Mashiach?

Isaiah 58:13-14
"If you keep your feet from breaking the Sabbath and from doing as you please on my holy day, if you call the Sabbath a delight and the LORD’s holy day honorable, and if you honor it by not going your own way and not doing as you please or speaking idle words, 14 then you will find your joy in the LORD, and I will cause you to ride in triumph on the heights of the land and to feast on the inheritance of your father Jacob.” The mouth of the LORD has spoken."

Do you think that this promise is void? Didn't you just identify yourself with a child of promise?

Galatians 4:28
"Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise."

 

[Saint Steven]

Do you think that this promise is void? Didn't you just identify yourself with a child of promise?

Galatians 4:28
"Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise."

Context is my best ally.

Galatians 4:28-31
Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29 At that time the son born according to the flesh persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. 30 But what does Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.” 31 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.

 

[Tone]

Context is my best ally.

Galatians 4:28-31
Now you, brothers and sisters, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29 At that time the son born according to the flesh persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. 30 But what does Scripture say? “Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son.” 31 Therefore, brothers and sisters, we are not children of the slave woman, but of the free woman.

So, is Isaiah 58:13-14 available for you?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

What about this?

Acts 21:27-29
When the seven days were nearly over, some Jews from the province of Asia saw Paul at the temple. They stirred up the whole crowd and seized him, 28 shouting, “Fellow Israelites, help us! This is the man who teaches everyone everywhere against our people and our law and this place. And besides, he has brought Greeks into the temple and defiled this holy place.” 29 (They had previously seen Trophimus the Ephesian in the city with Paul and assumed that Paul had brought him into the temple.)

Obviously they did not like Paul. The Greek was a gentile at which they must have assumed he was an idol worshipper.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Do you remember why Saul went to Damascus?

And?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Correct the 7th day and the sabbath are two different items. The sabbath is observed by some on our 7th day of the week.

The Sabbath is ONLY on the 7th day.