Is it wrong that I keep Shabbat and do not "go to church" on Sunday?

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I'm still waiting for you to produce evidence of any human observing the Sabbath before Ex.16.

I don't need to because I don't base my belief on that, YOU do...
 
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House arrest LOL! Where do you get this stuff from?
Exodus 16:29
Bear in mind that the Lord has given you the Sabbath; that is why on the sixth day he gives you bread for two days. Everyone is to stay where they are on the seventh day; no one is to go out.”
 
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I don't need to because I don't base my belief on that, YOU do...
That's not correct.
You claim that the Sabbath was instituted for humankind in Genesis two.
I say there is no human evidence for that. You have failed to prove your claim.

Romans 5:13
To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given...
 
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Exodus 16:29
Bear in mind that the Lord has given you the Sabbath; that is why on the sixth day he gives you bread for two days. Everyone is to stay where they are on the seventh day; no one is to go out.”

LOL, believe me, I know how to keep Shabbat...
 
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That's not correct.
You claim that the Sabbath was instituted for humankind in Genesis two.
I say there is no human evidence for that. You have failed to prove your claim.

Romans 5:13
To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given...

It was...BTW, you seem to love taking scripture out of context...here is the WHOLE verse:

To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law. Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.
 
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LOL, believe me, I know how to keep Shabbat...
How did you arrive at that conclusion?

Is the Sabbath some freewheeling do-whatever-you-want thing?
Maybe I should claim to be a Sabbath-keeper.
I usually don't work on Saturday. Anything else required?
 
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It was...BTW, you seem to love taking scripture out of context...here is the WHOLE verse:

To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law. Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.
How does that change the facts?
Sin was in the world before the law was given.
Do you dispute that?
 
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That there was law before Sinai... Genesis 26:5
Are you calling the Apostle Paul a liar?

Romans 5:13
To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given...
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This is where definitions help. The term "the law" is very specific.
Even the Apostle makes a distinction between "the law" and "God's law".

1 Corinthians 9:21
To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law.
 
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Are you calling the Apostle Paul a liar?

Romans 5:13
To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given...
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This is where definitions help. The term "the law" is very specific.
Even the Apostle makes a distinction between "the law" and "God's law".

1 Corinthians 9:21
To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law.

I am saying you don't understand him :) Almost Shabbat! I will say a bracha for you Achi! See ya Sunday :)
 
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Exodus 16:29
Bear in mind that the Lord has given you the Sabbath; that is why on the sixth day he gives you bread for two days. Everyone is to stay where they are on the seventh day; no one is to go out.”

Context, Achi, context!! You are not to go out and COLLECT.
 
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Context, Achi, context!! You are not to go out and COLLECT.
That makes sense. What do you make of this?

Matthew 12:1-2
At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick some heads of grain and eat them. 2 When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.”
 
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