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Is it unChristian to be supportive of Trump?

ViaCrucis

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Every problem Obama had were of his own making, from hiding his past to trying to destroy the economy. Sorry you couldn't see it, but blinders are hell on peripheral vision.
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Of course, more conspiracy theory and lies. Shocking.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Well, it won't be easy to accomplish both, even if both are desirable. But that's no reason to harrumpf the effort from the first day of the current administration forward. Let's see what can be done before snarling at the effort. And it must be said that the share of the national budget devoted to national defense has been much higher through most of our history. Obama reduced it drastically, so it's not reasonable to talk as though some great move towards militarism or imperialism is underway if the administration wants to bring things back into balance. Every military man I've heard address it has said that we are down to dangerously low levels now with outdated equipment, the need to make the same men take six or seven tours of duty in the Middle East, personnel being forced to cannibalize some equipment in order to keep other machines working, and etc.

If you think that Trump is the agent of all that, you just haven't been paying attention. :doh:

Team Trump has been up to a lot lately.

Thank you but Obama did the same thing

That, of course, is a lie. Or, I guess "lie" isn't the right phrase these days, I believe the right prefers "alternative fact", the term "lie" is only used when describing actual facts based in reality or when attacking the free press.

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Also, who wants to overthrow the government? Who is wanting that? I mean in reality, not what people like Rush Limbaugh or the lunatic psychopaths who write for Breitbart might be saying.

How about those left-wingers like Madonna, who call for the death of the President or want to blow up the WH?

And why take every opportunity to slander people who have nothing to do with the subject, like Rush?
Don't people care about bearing false witness any more?
 
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That, of course, is a lie. Or, I guess "lie" isn't the right phrase these days, I believe the right prefers "alternative fact", the term "lie" is only used when describing actual facts based in reality or when attacking the free press.
You really should inform yourself before you start writing. When it comes to theological matters, you're great. I don't get that you shoot from the hip there.
 
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How about those left-wingers like Madonna, who call for the death of the President or want to blow up the WH?
Can you imagine anyone getting away with that (or the dozens of other celebrities' comments in the same vein) during any past administration in our lifetimes? Certainly not, and yet it's now almost routine. But that's not the half of it. They first wanted to recount the election. That has not been done before. Then they sent death threats to members of the Electoral College. Then bribes. Then they tried to prevent the College from doing its work. Then they suggested short-circuiting the transfer of power from the old Congress to the new (fortunately, Joe Biden had too much integrity for that). Then they hoped to prevent the inauguration from taking place and did disrupt it to some degree. Then they began a campaign to impeach the president, even without any charges. They said they didn't need any. And they did everything possible to keep the government from having any Cabinet officers. Congressmen openly called the president "illegitimate." The Democrat leader vowed in public not to allow a full Supreme Court to be seated. The media added its fake news and holdovers from the Obama administration leaked sensitive data illegally and withheld information from the White House. And that's only part of it.
 
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"A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction...

This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence—economic, political, even spiritual—is felt in every city, every statehouse, every office of the federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military–industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals so that security and liberty may prosper together"
- President Dwight D. Eisenhower, Farewell Address to the Nation, January 17, 1961
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As a former 5 star-general during WW2, President Eisenhower address to the American public warning about the dangers of the unrestricted growth of the "military-industrial complex" is worth repeating, given President Trump's intention to slash the budgets of many branches of the federal government to fund the military–industrial complex.

Given that the President has expressed a reluctance to become involved in future military interventions, this brings into question the need for massive military investment increases as a national priority!
 
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Given that the President has expressed a reluctance to become involved in future military involvements, this brings into question his rationale for massive military investment increases as a national priority!
It's what they call "preparedness." That's what our country stood for during most of its history--non-intervention but also being adequately prepared in case we're attacked.
 
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Team Trump has been up to a lot lately.



That, of course, is a lie. Or, I guess "lie" isn't the right phrase these days, I believe the right prefers "alternative fact", the term "lie" is only used when describing actual facts based in reality or when attacking the free press.

-CryptoLutheran
Yes, Team Trump has been doing a lot in these first 100 days. And which most Presidents has never kept none of their promises accept for one of two, but only for those special interest. At the end of their administration, that is when they bring in the sheaves from their labor.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/292441-pay-for-play-is-the-clinton-way

Broke? Clinton's accepted $190,027 in gifts, inked $23m in book deals exiting White House

President Obama could sign a multi-million dollar book deal after leaving office

 
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And referencing a far right reactionary tabloid as a source is presenting "facts".

Cool.

-CryptoLutheran
I notice that you tried to sail a far Left outfit, Snopes.com., past us as one of your linked sources.

It is best known for fake news and fake quotes and has been cited for such doings by Politifact, which is itself a liberal organization closely aligned with the Democratic Party.
 
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Obama didn't pass a travel ban, no matter what Team Nazi at Breitbart says. Perhaps you'd like to try again.

-CryptoLutheran

Well, I believes that George Soros has been helping the Saudis to finance these terrorist attacks.
 
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Well, I believes that George Soros has been helping the Saudis to finance these terrorist attacks.

And I believe Queen Elizabeth II is a lizard person. I can find some Youtube videos about it if you want.

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Nope. I just think responding to conspiracy theory with conspiracy theory is sufficient to illustrate the point.

-CryptoLutheran
Yeah, I cannot stand them conspiracy theories!!! But should we put a travel ban on those conspiracies buffs as well?

 
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A lot of the Muslims coming into this country want to make changes to our country.
Some will carry their home country flag rather than the American flag.
To these I say no thank you.
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A lot of the Muslims coming into this country want to make changes to our country.
Some will carry their home country flag rather than the American flag.
To these I say no thank you.
M-Bob
I believes that those are not Muslims. The ones that had killed Gadaffi, weren't Muslims that were not from his district. They were Muslims from another part. Did not made any sense why were they protesting. Someone is planting these fake Muslims like they are planting fake news. These Elites are creating terror in Muslims countries so that they have to run from it. Then they welcomes these Muslims that are fleeing from these countries, and while they are sneaking in these terrorist that are claiming to be Muslims. But how can you stop and destroy these terrorist since they are calling themselves Muslims and mingling among them? And then the Elites has started another group of anti american party that some are white and black that wants to destroy this white country as well? But then the both of these paid terrorist groups that they are recruiting the mental challenge, that has been mistreated all of their life by immature citizens, into their organizations. How can we separate the weeds from the wheats without destroying the wheats?

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A lot of Facebook "friends" have told me I am a hypocrite for being for the travel ban. I know it is not a Muslim ban. But all over FB we see memes and articles about how the Christian thing to do is to welcome refugees in, no questions asked, and if we want a better vetting process or a wall, we're bad Christians. One "friend" told me how disturbing it was that someone (myself) who professes to practice a religion of love, would be ignorant and intolerant.

Also, concerning abortion and gay marriage, I'm getting real tired of being told I am not a real Christian by people who don't even go to church or read the bible. I actually had a friend say, "If you don't think gays should get married, you're not a real Christian." I feel like the bad guy. Thoughts?
Ignore the deluded fools. They are a part of the tribulation in life all Christians should expect. BTW, you would be better off to simply avoid facebook. It is a vile place.
 
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