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ESPECIALLY those who belong to the family of believers.It is fine to talk about love for all people and welcoming them into the country but no one is going to sanction allowing everyone who wants to come to enter the country. There are important questions to be asked about who comes, how many come, and the consequences for people already here.
A Christian perspective is expressed by Paul in Galatians 6:10 - "Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers." (NIV)
A lot of Facebook "friends" have told me I am a hypocrite for being for the travel ban. I know it is not a Muslim ban. But all over FB we see memes and articles about how the Christian thing to do is to welcome refugees in, no questions asked, and if we want a better vetting process or a wall, we're bad Christians.
One "friend" told me how disturbing it was that someone (myself) who professes to practice a religion of love, would be ignorant and intolerant.
Also, concerning abortion and gay marriage, I'm getting real tired of being told I am not a real Christian by people who don't even go to church or read the bible. I actually had a friend say, "If you don't think gays should get married, you're not a real Christian." I feel like the bad guy. Thoughts?
It should be added, in the face of all the outright lies and hysteria surrounding Trump, that he is also very pro-gay as well.......
I happen to be pro-gay, but I would never accuse those with different viewpoints of not being a real Christian.
BEING mean spirited is wrong. "Appearing" mean spirited is usually what is manipulated by the leftist controlled 'media'. A vast difference.It's important to consider how our words and actions reflect on the witness to our faith. Appearing mean spirited is not a good thing.
"Pro-gay"? What does that mean?FireDragon76 said:I happen to be pro-gay, but I would never accuse those with different viewpoints of not being a real Christian.
Turning those in need away is not the way of Christ, how ever there is nothing wrong with identifying those that want to do us harm and not let them in.I believe that turning away those in need is not the way of Christ. It is an act of fear springing from lack of faith in God for protection, and it is not right to turn the back on those in need. I believe it to be the opposite of the teachings of Christ.
A lot of Facebook "friends" have told me I am a hypocrite for being for the travel ban. I know it is not a Muslim ban. But all over FB we see memes and articles about how the Christian thing to do is to welcome refugees in, no questions asked, and if we want a better vetting process or a wall, we're bad Christians. One "friend" told me how disturbing it was that someone (myself) who professes to practice a religion of love, would be ignorant and intolerant.
Also, concerning abortion and gay marriage, I'm getting real tired of being told I am not a real Christian by people who don't even go to church or read the bible. I actually had a friend say, "If you don't think gays should get married, you're not a real Christian." I feel like the bad guy. Thoughts?
Please tell me how do you know he is not genuinely saved, do you feel that Hillary is genuinely saved.Emperor Constantine was a not a genuine Christian, yet he greatly benefited the Church and Rome. Trump is not genuinely saved, yet he has and will continue to benefit the Church and the nation. Of course Christians should support Trump and his temporary travel ban.
A Christian is no more a nation than a nation is a Christian. Too many professing Christians effectively treat them as the same as pertains to Christian duty/rights/privileges and refugee/immigration policy.
Christians should not impose the same standards on a nation, as a whole, as would be applied to individual Christians . Concerning safety and security, it's a huge mistake to claim that the covenant rights and privileges that apply to individual Christians also apply to a nation as a whole when said nation contains a large population of unsaved, God-hating persons.
If you refuse entry into your personal home to a stranger that you believe might pose a threat or danger to your household, are you not loving them? I think not, not if God has not commanded otherwise in that particular situation.
Just because I, as a Christian under the protection of the Almighty, can safely allow an immigrant/Muslim to stay in my home, does not mean I should impose the same thing on a person who is godless. Should I tell a godless person that they should allow a Muslim or immigrant to stay within the walls of their home and that they will be safe in doing so? Of course not.
Indeed, as a Christian who is guided and protected by the Holy Spirit, God Almighty just might tell me to allow a Muslim or immigrant to move into my home to stay for a certain period of time. And if He does so, then He will provide the grace to make it so. But you see, I have access to God's divine provision in terms of protection and other things. But can I say the same for America that is composed, to a great extent, of people that has rejected God? Should the nation of America just allow strangers (many of whom care nothing for traditional American values and biblical principles) to flood its borders considering that so many American's have rejected God's divine protection? America is not the Praying nation it once was. However, that being said, over the last two years I have noticed a significant change regarding prayer in America. I believe that change will continue.
In addition, just as a parent's primary duty is to his/her children in regards to care and safety, so to Americans is Trump's primary responsibility. Not foreign nationals.
Careless and irresponsible immigration and refugee policy creates much greater evil than it would potentially solve.
Very good points.Emperor Constantine was a not a genuine Christian, yet he greatly benefited the Church and Rome. Trump is not genuinely saved, yet he has and will continue to benefit the Church and the nation. Of course Christians should support Trump and his temporary travel ban.
A Christian is no more a nation than a nation is a Christian. Too many professing Christians effectively treat them as the same as pertains to Christian duty/rights/privileges and refugee/immigration policy.
Christians should not impose the same standards on a nation, as a whole, as would be applied to individual Christians . Concerning safety and security, it's a huge mistake to claim that the covenant rights and privileges that apply to individual Christians also apply to a nation as a whole when said nation contains a large population of unsaved, God-hating persons.
If you refuse entry into your personal home to a stranger that you believe might pose a threat or danger to your household, are you not loving them? I think not, not if God has not commanded otherwise in that particular situation.
Just because I, as a Christian under the protection of the Almighty, can safely allow an immigrant/Muslim to stay in my home, does not mean I should impose the same thing on a person who is godless. Should I tell a godless person that they should allow a Muslim or immigrant to stay within the walls of their home and that they will be safe in doing so? Of course not.
Indeed, as a Christian who is guided and protected by the Holy Spirit, God Almighty just might tell me to allow a Muslim or immigrant to move into my home to stay for a certain period of time. And if He does so, then He will provide the grace to make it so. But you see, I have access to God's divine provision in terms of protection and other things. But can I say the same for America that is composed, to a great extent, of people that has rejected God? Should the nation of America just allow strangers (many of whom care nothing for traditional American values and biblical principles) to flood its borders considering that so many American's have rejected God's divine protection? America is not the Praying nation it once was. However, that being said, over the last two years I have noticed a significant change regarding prayer in America. I believe that change will continue.
In addition, just as a parent's primary duty is to his/her children in regards to care and safety, so to Americans is Trump's primary responsibility. Not foreign nationals.
Careless and irresponsible immigration and refugee policy creates much greater evil than it would potentially solve.
I wish there were some Smith Wigglesworths treading our shores. We should be praying the Lord will raise them up all over the world. Serious prayer.It is interesting to me that the most effective healing evangelist of the 20th Century, Smith Wigglesworth, who had the glory of God around him so intensely that many could not stand it when they tried to pray alongside him for any length of time, would not read any newspapers, because he believed they contained nothing but lies. He would not even have one in his home, as Lester Sumrall found out when he went to visit him for the first time in the 1930s. I reckon if more Christian believers had the same attitude to the news media, we would see the positiveness of President Trump more clearly and support him more strongly.
A lot of Facebook "friends" have told me I am a hypocrite for being for the travel ban. I know it is not a Muslim ban. But all over FB we see memes and articles about how the Christian thing to do is to welcome refugees in, no questions asked, and if we want a better vetting process or a wall, we're bad Christians. One "friend" told me how disturbing it was that someone (myself) who professes to practice a religion of love, would be ignorant and intolerant.
Also, concerning abortion and gay marriage, I'm getting real tired of being told I am not a real Christian by people who don't even go to church or read the bible. I actually had a friend say, "If you don't think gays should get married, you're not a real Christian." I feel like the bad guy. Thoughts?
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