Jesusfreak
as others have said, and i guess you now know.
you arent going to find a clear answer here, only lots of people who dont agree on this much argued subject.
i clearly say that no that is not true. i dont think ill ever believe that.
the bible makes it abundantly clear that it is possible to escape corruption through Christ, but then go back and become entangled in sin and corruption again,and have an end even worse than what you started with.
2 pet ch 2.
the bible says that if you go back to sin again, then there remains no sacrifice for sins, and that you have counted that blood that YOU WERE SAVED BY an unholy thing, walking over it. hebrews 10.15-20
people always like to say "well they werent saved in the first place then"
when these people know they sin everyday of their lives themselves, so how can they say such things?
what? they only wish and hope their sins arent as bad?
the bible says that if we are saved we can walk in the spirit and wont fullfill the lust of the flesh. why is this even told to christians if its not possible to sin anyway if your really saved?
the bible says that we are not to give an occasion to our flesh.
that means, that even the most saved of people have to take heed and watch themselves, so they dont let their flesh rise up.
and the bible says our flesh will not obey God and his law.
so how is it we christians cant go back to sin, once we are truely saved?
John wrote to the church and said that he hoped they wouldnt sin, but apparantly they could. 1 john 2.1
so if its possible for Christians to go back to sin, why cant we do things that are not to God that are proof of our fruit of evil?
i beleive the entire book of galations proves you can lose your salvation.
it clearly speaks of a people who had begun to run well and who were genuinely saved by the gospel, but later, in chapter 5 it says these people had "fallen from grace" and came to a place where Christ prophited them nothing at all.
some people say it never actually happened to them, but that is foolishness and Paul was still saying it for reason, to saved people.
Jesus said in john 15 i think, that he finds limbs that dont bear fruit that are IN HIM, that ARE in the vine, and REMOVES THEM.
i think it is abundantly clear that you CAN lose your salvation.
people say that nothing can seperate us from the love of God, and thats true, but it doesnt mean your saved or ever were saved.
people say nothing can pull you from his hand, and thats true, but running from God is always voluntary and it isnt like your being pulled away from him, but rather jumping out, and God letting go.
the bible says in jude that there are people who have been spiritually dead 2 diffrent times, while still alive on the earth so they can eat at church feasts.
how can this mean anything but a person losing their salvation?
you start out dead, but become alive in Christ, and how could you possible be dead twice while still on the earth if you cant lose your salvation and go back to that death?
ok this guy...i sware was so confusing that it made no sence what so ever, but back to my question....Is it true that once you are saved you will go to hevean no matter what? Is it...My friends and i don't agree at all. :o what is this guy saying :o 
