Is it possible..

[guuila]

Again, not following.

is 'chance' a banned word here.

You really think things happen according to chance? And that gives you comfort? Huh.

Seriously, was the apostle Paul unsaved prior to his calling by God on the road to Damascus ?

Yep.

 

[Skala]

Again, not following.

is 'chance' a banned word here.

Seriously, was the apostle Paul unsaved prior to his calling by God on the road to Damascus ?

Yes he was unsaved.

Then God saved him.

That's how salvation works

Seriously though, Paul says that his conversion is a mirror of how God saves each of us. If I can find the passage, I'll post it.

 

[JackSparrow]

You really think things happen according to chance? And that gives you comfort? Huh.



Yep.

No, quite the opposite

 

[guuila]

No, quite the opposite

It doesn't give you comfort?

 

[JackSparrow]

Yes he was unsaved.

Then God saved him.

That's how salvation works

Seriously though, Paul says that his conversion is a mirror of how God saves each of us. If I can find the passage, I'll post it.

Thanks, I pop by again.

 

[elman]

Yes he was unsaved.

Then God saved him.

That's how salvation works

Seriously though, Paul says that his conversion is a mirror of how God saves each of us. If I can find the passage, I'll post it.

Did you have a Damascus Road conversion?

 

[elman]

Yes it is, but not all interpretations are equal. There are an infinite amount of erroneous ones, and there is one correct one. It makes absolutely no sense at all in the context of Romans 12:3 to believe God gives a measure of faith to every single individual. That's not even the point Paul is making. He's not even remotely talking about that. Observe:

I appeal to you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your spiritual worship. Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned. (Romans 12:1-3 ESV)'

He is obviously addressing the church in Rome. He calls them brothers, and says I say TO YOU not to think of himself more highly than he ought, but think soberly - each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned. If every single person in existence has faith, every single person in existence is justified and is going to heaven. Your refusal to be corrected here is concerning.

Can you submit your body in sacrifice to God? Can you refuse to do that?

 

[elman]

We are/were all too pigheaded to understand Christ. The gracious gift of God was what allowed us to not be.

All of history is an unfolding of the approval of God. There is not one minute happening that is not approved and decreed by our Sovereign.

So man does not chose to sin. God chooses to make man sin?

 

[Charis kai Dunamis]

So man does not chose to sin. God chooses to make man sin?

Ever hear of a second cause?

 

[elman]

That doesn't answer the question. Chance denotes possibility. Possibility denotes uncertainty. Uncertainty denotes lack of knowledge, which we both believe to be impossible with God (I think). Therefore chance does not exist.

Uncertainty does not denote lack of knowledge. The chance being discussed is about opportunity.

 

[guuila]

Can you submit your body in sacrifice to God? Can you refuse to do that?

Yes and yes, but not perpetually.

 

[elman]

Sounds like a classic case of "if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"

Which is not true, not from God, and not in the bible. Saying I do not know for sure is the correct answer sometimes.

 

[elman]

The question is has God revealed to us in Scripture that his grace is the cause of anyone's salvation or not? If he has, we better believe it.

The question is has God revealed in Scripture that the wicked have no hope of grace? If He has, we had better believe it.

 

[guuila]

Which is not true, not from God, and not in the bible. Saying I do not know for sure is the correct answer sometimes.

Is "Saying I do not know for sure is the correct answer sometimes." in the Bible?

 

[elman]

Is "Saying I do not know for sure is the correct answer sometimes." in the Bible?

It is truth.

 

[guuila]

It is truth.

Is it in the Bible?

 

[Charis kai Dunamis]

Uncertainty does not denote lack of knowledge.

???

All definitions look like this:

1. Not known or established; questionable
2. Not determined; undecided
3. Not having sure knowledge

Please recant.

 

[motherprayer]

???

All definitions look like this:

1. Not known or established; questionable
2. Not determined; undecided
3. Not having sure knowledge

Please recant.

Honest question: Do you believe it is possible to be absolutely certain about all things pertaining God? If not, do you believe that one can be knowledgable about the Bible and also uncertain about all things pertaining God?

 

[elman]

Is it in the Bible?

All truth is not in the Bible.

 

[elman]

???

All definitions look like this:

1. Not known or established; questionable
2. Not determined; undecided
3. Not having sure knowledge

Please recant.

I take number one, now you recant.