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A monergist is one who believes God creates man already evil and then randomly chooses to give eternal life to a few but leaves most of them to suffer forever, BECAUSE GOD LOVES HIMSELF, right? But in any event man has nothing to do with anything that happens--correct?
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It's human nature to categorize thoughts and ideas. The key is to not engage in unnecessary flaming of other people because we happen to disagree on points of theology.
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It's not.
Monergism is the combination of the prefix mono ("one") and the Greek energeo ("energy" or "work"); "one-work". It is contrasted with synergism, meaning something like "joint-work".
Monergism asserts that in regeneration God is the sole agent, He alone accomplishes the work.
Synergism asserts that in regeneration God and man must cooperate to accomplish the work.
As a Lutheran I'm a monergist, however also as a Lutheran I believe that God loves everyone, desires everyone to be saved, and that Christ died for everyone. No exceptions.
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motherprayer
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I am neither Calvinist or Arminian. Its possible 
Christ is about Christ, that's it. Its possible to follow Christ and never claim an -ism in your life.
Christ is about Christ, that's it. Its possible to follow Christ and never claim an -ism in your life.
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motherprayer
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If you say so
But seriously, can't we just be followers of Christ and call it a day?
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motherprayer
Elisha
Part of being a follower of Christ is giving him the credit He deserves for saving us
I agree. What I disagree with is the idea of the elect.
There is nothing a person can do to receive salvation except for receiving the gift He freely gave, and part of receiving that gift is knowing that without His sacrifice, we would not be able to be saved at all
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Skala
I'm a Saint. Not because of me, but because of Him
So you deny that the Bible speaks of group of people called "the elect"? The "idea of the elect" as you called it is not our idea, but the Bible's idea.
If you deny it, doesn't that mean your problem is with the Bible and not a particular soteriology? Seriously, bust out your electronic Bible software and do a search for "elect", "the elect", "God's elect" and take a gander for yourself how many times it appears in the NT and who it is referring to. It's referring to you, MP.
There is nothing a person can do to receive salvation except for receiving the gift He freely gave, and part of receiving that gift is knowing that without His sacrifice, we would not be able to be saved at all
Surely you know that after all this time, this is not the issue or controversy that we are discussing. Nobody would disagree with your above statement.
In fact, some people would say that the reason they are saved is precisely because of what Christ did for us. When he died for me, he was securing everything I needed to be saved and reconciled to God, including the very willingness to turn to him and the very faith needed to obey the gospel.
Some people refuse to give him that much credit though
Only some credit...only some.
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So you deny that the Bible speaks of group of people called "the elect"? The "idea of the elect" as you called it is not our idea, but the Bible's idea.
If you deny it, doesn't that mean your problem is with the Bible and not a particular soteriology? Seriously, bust out your electronic Bible software and do a search for "elect", "the elect", "God's elect" and take a gander for yourself how many times it appears in the NT and who it is referring to. It's referring to you, MP.
Surely you know that after all this time, this is not the issue or controversy that we are discussing. Nobody would disagree with your above statement.
In fact, some people would say that the reason they are saved is precisely because of what Christ did for us. When he died for me, he was securing everything I needed to be saved and reconciled to God, including the very willingness to turn to him and the very faith needed to obey the gospel.
Some people refuse to give him that much credit though
Only some credit...only some.
Not sure I have seen posts here NOT giving God the credit. Neither any post saying the Bible does not mention 'elect'.
Is the real controversy that God elects some to salvation then by default he has elected the rest to not salvation. Which raises some big issues.
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