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The reason it is a possibility and not certain is because we are involved in the process. In order to remove our involvement, you put God responsible for our evil. Certainty is the core of a theology that removes our involvement and our responsibility for our own sins.
What is stopping God from regenerating everyone?
Would you say that the only logical and honest answer is that ultimately, He does not want to regenerate everyone (and thus, doesn't)?
Since He created beings such as us with the ability to love or not love but no ability to be perfect as he is perfect or love completely as He loves completely.
Not at all. If you've listened to anything we've been saying for the past 6 months, you will recall us saying that we believe in Compatiblistic Free Will. Which means man's free will (or free agency) is compatible with God's sovereignty.
We've even given biblical examples such as Christ's crucifixion, Joseph being sold to Egypt, Assyria being used as God's rod of anger, etc.
No man could ever know the fullness of the mystery that is God.
Having the same mind of Christ means being open to Spiritual teaching from ANY source.
I never said Calvinists did.It looks like postmodernism has influenced your thinking. Calvinists don't claim to know and understand anymore than what God has revealed in the Bible.
The truth is, no one can know the fullness of the mystery of God. I should probably have said "Scriptural" rather than "Spiritual." Oh the joys of semanticsI get really tired of this liberal mindset. "Nobody can really know!" Oh really? All we're trying to defend is what the Bible says. It's amazing to me how many Christians usurp the authority of God and try to convince other Christians that the things revealed in Scripture aren't important. The audacity of some folks... just goes to show the arrogance that the flesh can produce.
Really? So Christ is open to the Koran? Even though it denies his deity?
I never said Calvinists did.
The truth is, no one can know the fullness of the mystery of God. I should probably have said "Scriptural" rather than "Spiritual." Oh the joys of semantics
The Quran has many teachings that are in line with the Bible. It is not 100% accurate, but I have learned things from Muslims that go right in line with what Scripture teaches.
My view is not liberal in the slightest. I don't know where you got that idea from All you have to do is go through my recent post history and you can see that. I believe God hates divorce, I also believe that homosexuality is sin. I believe we were much better off 50 years ago when people just accepted it rather than trying to set the Bible against itself and refute it.
What I meant when I said that one can find Spiritual (Scriptural) lessons from any source is that God uses everything for good, even what satan does. I meant that secular movies and literature have SCRIPTURAL lessons in them, but it takes a child of Christ to see that. I meant that one should never discount EVERYTHING that comes from a certain source just because one or two things in it are flawed, because EVERYTHING on earth is flawed. We live in a fallen world.
One should always be open especially to the things another believer has to say, whether they be Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, or even Mormon, because with a spirit of discernment one might learn something they never knew before.
What I meant when I said we can never know the fullness of the mysteries of God was that we can't. Plain and simple. If you believe you have all the answers, you end up missing out on what God wants to teach you, because as long as you breath, there will ALWAYS be something to learn.
The Quran has many teachings that are in line with the Bible. It is not 100% accurate, but I have learned things from Muslims that go right in line with what Scripture teaches.
One should always be open especially to the things another believer has to say, whether they be Catholic, Baptist, Lutheran, or even Mormon, because with a spirit of discernment one might learn something they never knew before.
What I meant when I said we can never know the fullness of the mysteries of God was that we can't. Plain and simple. If you believe you have all the answers, you end up missing out on what God wants to teach you, because as long as you breath, there will ALWAYS be something to learn.
The reason we can't know everything is because God hasn't revealed everything. But what he has revealed can be known. The question is has God revealed to us in Scripture that his grace is the cause of anyone's salvation or not? If he has, we better believe it.
Sounds like a classic case of "if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"
By the way, how's your study of Romans 12:1-6 going? Still thinking it's talking about every individual in human history?
Sigh.
Is it because you just refuse to be corrected? Is it a pride issue that you just don't want to admit you were understanding that verse wrongly all along?
I'm not being a jerk. I seriously am curious.
No, its simply a different interpretation.
I care tremendously for the souls of the unsaved. It breaks my heart to know that some are just to pigheaded to understand Christ or Christianity at all, and I pray for them all the time. I can't just accept that God is the reason some of them will perish.
No, its simply a different interpretation.
I care tremendously for the souls of the unsaved. It breaks my heart to know that some are just to pigheaded to understand Christ or Christianity at all, and I pray for them all the time. I can't just accept that God is the reason some of them will perish.
A. W. Pink said:"Men imagine that the Most High is moved by sentiment, rather than actuated by principle. They suppose that his omnipotency is such an idle fiction that Satan is thwarting his designs on every side. They think that if he has formed any plan or purpose at all, then it must be like theirs, constantly subject to change. They openly declare that whatever power he possesses must be restricted, lest he invade the citadel of man's "free will" and reduce him to a "machine". They lower the all-efficacious Atonement, which has actually redeemed everyone for whom it was made, to a mere "remedy," which sin-sick souls may use if they feel disposed to; to an "offer" of the Gospel which sinners may accept or reject as they please. The "god" of this twentieth century no more resembles the Supreme Sovereign of Holy Writ than does the dim flickering of a candle the glory of the midday sun."
Jack, God's chosen people are believers.
So if you re-word your questions to:
So do NOT believing people have any chance of getting saved ?
What percentage of the population in history would you say are NOT believers.
If you answer those two questions, you end up with the exact same answer for your original questions.
So, what is your answer for these questions?
Not following you.
Unbelievers do have a chance of getting saved. E.g the apostle Paul
Not following you.
Unbelievers do have a chance of getting saved. E.g the apostle Paul
A chance? If only they'll wise up and be like you?
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