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Is it possible for God to save any marriage?

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I'm new to this forum and I'm desperate for help and prayer. I recently got married and I didn't get married for love, which is a really long story. I was rushed into the decision and thought I loved my wife to be, but after we reached the final days towards the wedding I realized that I was making a huge mistake. Unfortunately I didn't have the courage to stop and went through with it anyways and now I'm in major depression because I can't get out it because God hates divorce and I'm miserable.

Can anybody give me any suggestions, help advice and definately prayer??!?
 

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Yes, God can save any marriage. What did you expect to hear, 'there are some marriages God is powerless to save.'? Problem is, people often harden their hearts to trusting in God to help so they don't give God the chance to bless their marriage by inviting his guidance into it.
 
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Absolutely he can.

It might not be easy at first and its going to take a lot of commitment, communication and hard work from you and your wife but God can cause love to grow beyond anything you ever imagined.

Pray, talk with your wife and with another Christian you respect.
 
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Thanks, it wasn't that I was lacking faith, but I just need affirmation from fellow christians.

I'm constantly praying about this as it's on my mind all the time. I keep asking God to fill me with Romantic Love for my wife and to have me view her as God sees her.

I just don't know what kind of work one needs to do with their spouse to cause love to grow from what seems like nothing.
 
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Ok, not that this is going to solve all your problems, as a matter of fact it is just a start, but it will open communication. I suggest you pick up the book, Night Light for couples by James Dobson and his wife. It is just devotionals to do together, and they encourage communication. This is one way to start. Also, you may want to seek Christian counseling.
 
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You and your wife both have my prayers, kula. The fact that you're willing to make this marriage work, despite how you feel, speaks loads about your basic character.

To love is a choice we all make; many a marriage (including my first one) has failed because one partner decided not to love the other person.

I can't tell you how to love your wife, but I can tell you how it feels to live with a depressed, miserable spouse. It's a horror beyond anything I have every experienced. There's nothing I can do to make my spouse smile, much less be happy. His days are spent at work, his time off is spent hiding in video games, or computer programming, or in a moody, angry/sad silence. My touch doesn't affect him, and my voice doesn't bring him comfort. Far from taking joy in his children, he shuns them. Because of the lack of affection from their father, they turn to me for that "good touch". They miss their daddy.

As a woman, my heart aches and I sometimes feel that my days would be better spent elsewhere. As a Christian wife, however, my vow includes respecting, loving, and supporting my husband no matter what. I've had to turn to these forums to take a more Christian perspective on my husband, instead of listening to the world's view and leaving him at a time when he so very obviously needs me the most.

Your wife still loves you, but your depression will take a toll on her, as well. Love can't be killed, but it can be starved. You need to feed your wife's love in order for it to flourish. Love her as Christ so loved the church....By beginning with the little things. Cherish her, look out for her, don't forget to thank her for the little things, and compliment her occasionally. Touch her, even if it's just a cuddle. A woman was designed by God to need these things from her spouse.

For you, please look at the good she does in your everyday life. Notice when her hands do the laundry. Notice the meals she cooks, how she moves, what she does to please you. Love grows when we see the good in a person's heart. Don't look at her negatively; negativity will only make your life seem worse, and does no good. Don't cut her down or belittle her, because she needs your approval and depends on that validation from you.

Also, counseling for how you're feeling would be a very wise idea. What you're feeling needs to be bounced off of an objective third person, and the counselor can give you guidance as to how to proceed in making the marriage better for the both of you.

Above all, PRAY. Read your Bible. If you have a concordance or the Sword Project (a Bible program), look up what God says concerning marriage. You'd be amazed at some of the things you find.

God bless you in this journey, my friend. :prayer:
 
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I'm going to argue that God cannot save every marriage.

Not becasue He lacks the power to do so, but becasue God almost always works through people and the natural laws that He has created. If you remained depressed and made no effort to pray about your marriage and did nothing loving toward your wife, I don't see God swooping down, like a deaus ex machina and making it all better in an instant. You and your wife need to work on the marriage as well, not just sit around and wait for God to make it better. Not that you were thinking of doing that...

And at the risk of being a total rebel... Have you considered an annulment? An annulment is granted when there has not been a true marriage, when the two parties had very different ideas of what was going to happen and/or when one of them is not really committed to a marriage. I don't think it is mearly a semantic distinction.
 
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MaraPetra said:
You and your wife both have my prayers, kula. The fact that you're willing to make this marriage work, despite how you feel, speaks loads about your basic character.

To love is a choice we all make; many a marriage (including my first one) has failed because one partner decided not to love the other person.

I can't tell you how to love your wife, but I can tell you how it feels to live with a depressed, miserable spouse. It's a horror beyond anything I have every experienced. There's nothing I can do to make my spouse smile, much less be happy. His days are spent at work, his time off is spent hiding in video games, or computer programming, or in a moody, angry/sad silence. My touch doesn't affect him, and my voice doesn't bring him comfort. Far from taking joy in his children, he shuns them. Because of the lack of affection from their father, they turn to me for that "good touch". They miss their daddy.

As a woman, my heart aches and I sometimes feel that my days would be better spent elsewhere. As a Christian wife, however, my vow includes respecting, loving, and supporting my husband no matter what. I've had to turn to these forums to take a more Christian perspective on my husband, instead of listening to the world's view and leaving him at a time when he so very obviously needs me the most.

Your wife still loves you, but your depression will take a toll on her, as well. Love can't be killed, but it can be starved. You need to feed your wife's love in order for it to flourish. Love her as Christ so loved the church....By beginning with the little things. Cherish her, look out for her, don't forget to thank her for the little things, and compliment her occasionally. Touch her, even if it's just a cuddle. A woman was designed by God to need these things from her spouse.

For you, please look at the good she does in your everyday life. Notice when her hands do the laundry. Notice the meals she cooks, how she moves, what she does to please you. Love grows when we see the good in a person's heart. Don't look at her negatively; negativity will only make your life seem worse, and does no good. Don't cut her down or belittle her, because she needs your approval and depends on that validation from you.

Also, counseling for how you're feeling would be a very wise idea. What you're feeling needs to be bounced off of an objective third person, and the counselor can give you guidance as to how to proceed in making the marriage better for the both of you.

Above all, PRAY. Read your Bible. If you have a concordance or the Sword Project (a Bible program), look up what God says concerning marriage. You'd be amazed at some of the things you find.

God bless you in this journey, my friend. :prayer:
Thanks MaraPetra, your post made me break down. I've been doing all those this you've suggested in showing love for my wife. I make effort to touch her, compliment her, buy her flowers regularly, help with house work.

But I can see that the depression is hurting her because she wants the Man she married back. She tells me all the time she misses him as do I! I just wish I can feel what she feels for me as she is such a special woman and I hate that I did this to her. It's the regret that keeps attacking my mind wishing that I didn't go through with it, thus she'd have a normal life without this pain, just the pain of rejection which would be better to handle than this.

I'm making plans to sit down with my pastor to get advice on who I can see as a christian counselor. I have much faith in God's ability to get love to happen, but I also realize that it will take time and that's what is killing me. vbmenu_register("postmenu_20796118", true);
 
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God has outlined in the Bible what he expects of you in a marriage. Your marriage can be saved if you start to apply what the Bible says.

Praying for your marriage is the most important thing. But equally important, is your daily study of the Word, both what it says about marriage, and your own Christian walk.

Pray. Read. Apply.

God bless you!
 
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kula2000 said:
Thanks MaraPetra, your post made me break down. I've been doing all those this you've suggested in showing love for my wife. I make effort to touch her, compliment her, buy her flowers regularly, help with house work.

But I can see that the depression is hurting her because she wants the Man she married back. She tells me all the time she misses him as do I! I just wish I can feel what she feels for me as she is such a special woman and I hate that I did this to her. It's the regret that keeps attacking my mind wishing that I didn't go through with it, thus she'd have a normal life without this pain, just the pain of rejection which would be better to handle than this.

I'm making plans to sit down with my pastor to get advice on who I can see as a christian counselor. I have much faith in God's ability to get love to happen, but I also realize that it will take time and that's what is killing me. vbmenu_register("postmenu_20796118", true);

Seek ye first the kingdom of God, and all else will follow.

Time's a wonderful thing. It heals, it changes, it brings softness to what was once a stony heart.

I'm so glad you weren't insulted by my post, although it wasn't meant to make you break down (You're probably close to the breaking point already). I stressed caring for your wife for a reason...That reason being that by the time your feelings changed, hers would probably be changed as well, and for the worse.

It's encouraging to see that, by your own admission, even if you don't love her, you respect her and have an emotional attachment. This is a start, and it also shows what a kind, loving heart you have. Many a journey to love has been started with much less! There's hope in your heart, even if you don't feel it right now. You're expressing it, and that in itself is something wonderful. You have a strong basis to build this marriage into something which gives God the glory.

Sit down with your pastor and pour your heart out to him. Go to the person he recommends, and find out what you can do. Then do it.

Another tidbit...Your wife fell in love with someone incredible. She wants him back, and that's understandable. But she won't understand much unless you communicate with her. I'm not saying to tell her you don't love her (you'd crush her with that information), but open yourself in the fact of the depression you're feeling, the hopelessness. Let her know what's going on, so that she won't worry too much, and that you're seeking help from the pastor so things can get better. Depression is cruel in the fact that we shut ourselves completely away from those who would most love to help us. Something tells me she'd just about bend over backwards to help you.

What does matter is that you're working on your own feelings towards this marriage, and doing it in a way that is God-pleasing. God can raise up any marriage, and can change any heart. But if you seek Him, He will be there.

Don't forget to keep us updated, and please feel free to come here and vent. It helps!
 
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Also, if you feel that you are truly experiencing depression, then it may be in your best interest to get some medical help. Depression can affect your moods and cloud your judgment for making good decisions for yourself. So maybe if you solve your depression problem, your mind will be more open to God and learn how to love your wife on a deeper level. Having regrets is no way to live. To live peacefully and happily, you need to focus on the positive and good things in your life and not dwell on the negatives. Furthermore, focus on making today better and tomorrow will take care of itself. In other words, live in the present and let go of the past. May you first work on getting medical healing for depression and then work on strengthening your walk with God so that God can help you and your marriage. God bless you. :pray:
 
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heartnsoul said:
Also, if you feel that you are truly experiencing depression, then it may be in your best interest to get some medical help. Depression can affect your moods and cloud your judgment for making good decisions for yourself. So maybe if you solve your depression problem, your mind will be more open to God and learn how to love your wife on a deeper level. Having regrets is no way to live. To live peacefully and happily, you need to focus on the positive and good things in your life and not dwell on the negatives. Furthermore, focus on making today better and tomorrow will take care of itself. In other words, live in the present and let go of the past. May you first work on getting medical healing for depression and then work on strengthening your walk with God so that God can help you and your marriage. God bless you. :pray:

Agreed! My husband was diagnosed with depression about 2 months before our wedding (long story) and it was excruciating the first while. But he went for counselling with a Christian counsellor who is trained to deal with depression, and took medication and now I am happy to say I am married to the man I fell in love with. It can happen!

I can also highly recommend Anne Sheffield's books on depression and the impact on couples (the second one is Depression Fallout, I can't remember the name of the first one), as well as Terrence Real's "I don't want to talk about it" which is on male depression. These are not Christian books but helped me tremendously to understand my husband's depression and I'm sure it will be of benefit to you and your wife.

Above all, pray constantly!
 
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Hi Kula

Its encouraging to see how seriously you're taking this and how much you obviously want to make this work. I'm praying that God will bless you and your wife with shedloads of love for each other.

My husband and I got engaged very quickly (only 6days) and married after 9 months. By the time the wedding day came, we'd both lost sight of the reasons we got engaged and, like you, weren't strong enough to call it off so just went through with it all anyway. And, like you, after the wedding we were both plagued with feelings of regret, wondering whether we'd made a huge mistake and what we should do.

The first year of our marriage was incredibly hard. We were both depressed and showed it in different ways, and the niggling feeling of having done the wrong thing was always at the back of our minds. Looking at the photos and videos made me feel physically sick.

I can honestly say that by the end of that year, we were both still married because we're stubborn!! We both believe that God takes promises very seriously and on our wedding day we promised him, and each other, that we'd stick together til the end.

Three years on and we're very very much in love. I could never even have dreamed of loving him as much as I do now, let alone enjoying being with him and honestly being able to say that I'm glad I married him. And thankfully, he says the same. It's taken lots of work and a lot of communication but our marriage is stronger now than it has ever been and we're not stopping the work or the communication so it should just keep getting better.

There IS hope for you and your marriage. Marriage is a choice that you have to make every day, as is loving your wife. If you choose to do things every day to show that you love her, even when you don't particularly feel like it, that love will grow and you'll find you're doing it because you honestly feel it rather than because you're making yourself. Don't ever stop talking to her and being honest with her, and listening to her as well.

If you go to www.themarriagebed.com, there are 2 spin off sites from there called The Generous Wife and The Generous Husband where you can sign up for a daily email of ideas of little things to do to show your love for your spouse. You might find it encouraging?

Thanks for your honesty here - it can't be easy.
 
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Svt4Him said:
God doesn't hate all divorce, and God is more interested in people than He is in the institute of marriage. That said, if you made a promise to love your wife, why exactly would you now want to break that?

Where in the bible does it say God does not hate all divorce?

Malachi 2:16
“ For the LORD God of Israel says That He hates divorce, For it covers one’s garment with violence,” Says the LORD of hosts. “ Therefore take heed to your spirit, That you do not deal treacherously.”

Matthew 5:32
But I say to you that whoever divorces his wife for any reason except sexual immorality causes her to commit adultery; and whoever marries a woman who is divorced commits adultery.

Do you think that God does not hate divorce in this case? He hates sin, adultery is sin and the casue for killing the marriage and bringing about divorce. God does not say one thing and then later contradict himself!

Matthew 19:8
He said to them, "Moses, because of the hardness of your hearts, permitted you to divorce your wives, but from the beginning it was not so..."

Divorce was not in the original plan and design for marriage. God hates it. He never renounced what he said.
 
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Words of encouragement:

Philippians 4:13
I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me

Romans 8:28
And we know that all things work together for the good of those who love God...

Pay attention to the order in which these things are developed:
2 Peter 1:5-7
But also for this very reason, giving all dilligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love.

1 Thessalonians 5:17
pray without ceasing

Make Christ the center of your marriage through bible study, prayer, and worship together. Christ and God are of same mind. God is love, how then if love is in the center of your marriage how can there be none for eachother.

After getting married people realize that love (the feeling and emotion) fades, but the love that takes work (agape) Self sacrificial love (the love of Jesus) never fails (1 Corinthians 13).

As for the depression and continuation of the problem and this feeling you are having, seek help. Many churches offer free counseling for its members. A good rule of thumb is if a problem cannot be solved within a week, outside help is needed and should be sought.

-Praying for your marriage
ValerieShmallory
 
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kula2000 said:
Thanks, it wasn't that I was lacking faith, but I just need affirmation from fellow christians.

I'm constantly praying about this as it's on my mind all the time. I keep asking God to fill me with Romantic Love for my wife and to have me view her as God sees her.

I just don't know what kind of work one needs to do with their spouse to cause love to grow from what seems like nothing.

Start with prayer asking God to show you all her positive qualities.
Then list the things that you ifnd most appealing.

What is her greatest strength?
What is her gift (compassion for others; encouragement; cheerfulness; etc)
What attracted you to her?

Love can be cultivated and will grow in the rich soil of God's love. :pray:
 
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I'm so touched and I'm so glad that God has answered my prayer be directing me to this site. I can't believe how many caring christians are out there and are so willing simply to pray and give advice without judgement.

My wife and I do a bible reading and pray together every night before we go to bed. I know that this is important and she says she prays for me while she works in regards to my depression and anxiety.

What is amazing for me is that I believe that God is using this situation to bring me closer to him. I gave my life to Jesus in Nov 2001 and actively persued him through christian equiping courses. After I finished that I went and assisted with the Alpha program for about a season. After that I took a break and was not so perseverant as a christian, which was demostrated by the fact that I didn't seek his approval for my engagement.

Now that this has happened I've never prayed so much and memorized so much scripture in my entire life. I'm learning how to truely walk my walk as I feel I have no other choice or outlet. This is the only positive that has occured thus far.

Thank you so much again for our prayers and suggestions they are giving me signs of peace and hope. It still is going to be incredibly hard.

Thanks
 
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