Is it even possible? the Left hits a new low

[Shiloh Raven]

Or the rock star who said Obama can suck on his machine gun?

Remember that clown no one on the right ever follows or listens to?

There are those pesky facts again getting in the way of this thread's narrative to lump all liberals together and blame the entire left for the behavior of one liberal. If it weren't for those pesky facts...

Were conservative Christians upset and outraged when that rock star said that about Obama or when a Florida state representative said Obama looks like a monkey or when Michelle Obama was called an 'ape in heels'? Did they say: Is it even possible? the Right hits a new low? Where was their outrage?

Republicans Just Can't Stop Comparing Obama to a Monkey

‘Ape In Heels’: 5 Times Michelle Obama Was Called A Primate

Primate in Chief: A Guide to Racist Obama Monkey Photoshops

Rubio Campaign Volunteer and Ex-Florida Lawmaker Says Obama Looks Like a Monkey

 

[GoldenBoy89]

LOL!

Thus more fuel for this, GB.

I don't know. I know a lot of people that found that bit pretty funny. Probably the many millions who aren't walking away

 

[SolomonVII]

Congress sent a bill offering funding for a border wall to Trump and he did not sign it. Wonder why the right does not want to build a border wall?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.91dfa691d730


http://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/380265-trump-dems-can-solve-the-daca-problem-by-redefining-it

 

[Easy Listener]

Trump has been accused of sexual assault three times:
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-tru...-minor-wife-business-victims-roy-moore-713531

Twenty women accused Trump of perversion and sexual misconduct:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...trump-sexual-misconduct-allegations-full-list

What has America become? There is corruption in both political parties.

It's not "what has america become". It is really just you discovering what mankind has always been. I broke through this barrier late in life. Regarding the US, I was like the kid that thought his parents were perfect until my 30's. The US is based on the greatest constitution in the history of the world, but it still has its challenges because its leaders are human beings.

Check out the history of brothels in the US in the 18th century. And how about John and Marylin. If you are looking for a perfect president regarding faithfulness to his wife, you may be stuck with Pence, and he was vilified for the agreement he and his wife have (the same one my wife and I have had since our wedding, 20+ years ago).

It's not about sex. It's about whether the guy from the other side is doing it.

 

[Easy Listener]

Was this an attempt at comedy or are you seriously hinting at an armed conflict between the left and right over some jokes about the president?

Neither. It was a warning, much as my wife warns me to put on bug spray before I go out to work in the woods, or a cop tells you to wear your seat belt. It is addressing real risks. Nothing more and nothing less.

 

[Easy Listener]

I think it's cute you think no one on the left knows how to use a gun or has any in their possession.

That is not what I think.

 

[Easy Listener]

I like comedians of all stripes. Left, right, black, white. If their comedy is good, then I'll enjoy it. If I know they are telling a joke, I don't get upset over it because it's just a joke. On that point, are there even any rightwing comedians? I can't think of any but they've got to be out there somewhere.

Most right wing comedians are actually overtly trying to make a point and their humor is part of an overall message.
An example:

 

[Easy Listener]

More conservative humor:

 

[Easy Listener]

And this one is still my personal favorite:

 

[brinny]

I don't know. I know a lot of people that found that bit pretty funny. Probably the many millions who aren't walking away

It was not funny, GB.

GoldenBoy89 said: ↑
Yeah, she also ripped Sarah Sanders a new one and mopped the floor with Trump at the Correspondent's Dinner.

This is not funny.

I appreciate "funny".

This was not.

Even by your own words, it wasn't funny.

No worries, tho' GB.

It shouldn't be a surprise that some find it not funny.

It wasn't.

C'mon, GB. Get off that sad sad sinking ship.

There's room on the train for you.

 

[SolomonVII]

It's not "what has america become". It is really just you discovering what mankind has always been. I broke through this barrier late in life. Regarding the US, I was like the kid that thought his parents were perfect until my 30's. The US is based on the greatest constitution in the history of the world, but it still has its challenges because its leaders are human beings.

Check out the history of brothels in the US in the 18th century. And how about John and Marylin. If you are looking for a perfect president regarding faithfulness to his wife, you may be stuck with Pence, and he was vilified for the agreement he and his wife have (the same one my wife and I have had since our wedding, 20+ years ago).

It's not about sex. It's about whether the guy from the other side is doing it.

Breakdown of community standards has its consequences.
For generations now, the mantra of the left side of politics is that that nobody ought to shove their morality down people's throats. One standard after another was dismantled, because 'it is wrong to shove your morality down anyone's throat'.
For one example, Howard Stern would never have been allowed to air his program anytime before the 1970's.
Trump was part of that show. Trump is a part of the phenomena that emerged from having standards dismantled. He is part of the tawdry media events that came to dominate the air waves after the sexual revolution took hold.

It was all great spectacle for sure, very entertaining. But what is spectacle for one generation becomes the norm for their children, inundated with the air waves from the time they get up until the time they go to sleep.
Pandora's box is opened. We cannot unsee or unhear anything that we have already seen and heard.
But we do need to realize that the death of community standards does have some very detrimental consequences.

 

[Easy Listener]

Breakdown of community standards has its consequences.
For generations now, the mantra of the left side of politics is that that nobody ought to shove their morality down people's throats. One standard after another was dismantled, because 'it is wrong to shove your morality down anyone's throat'.
For one example, Howard Stern would never have been allowed to air his program anytime before the 1970's.
Trump was part of that show. Trump is a part of the phenomena that emerged from having standards dismantled. He is part of the tawdry media events that came to dominate the air waves after the sexual revolution took hold.

It was all great spectacle for sure, very entertaining. But what is spectacle for one generation becomes the norm for their children, inundated with the air waves from the time they get up until the time they go to sleep.
Pandora's box is opened. We cannot unsee or unhear anything that we have already seen and heard.
But we do need to realize that the death of community standards does have some very detrimental consequences.

I agree. I shared an epiphany I had recently in my Sunday school last week and it was an epiphany for everyone there as well: Regarding language, in the past, the right and Christians were the prudes, but now the left is the prudes. And just as the right had their blue laws and other stuff, the left is trying the same thing, but with stuff their moral compass is focused on.

 

[Easy Listener]

Breakdown of community standards has its consequences.
For generations now, the mantra of the left side of politics is that that nobody ought to shove their morality down people's throats. One standard after another was dismantled, because 'it is wrong to shove your morality down anyone's throat'.
For one example, Howard Stern would never have been allowed to air his program anytime before the 1970's.
Trump was part of that show. Trump is a part of the phenomena that emerged from having standards dismantled. He is part of the tawdry media events that came to dominate the air waves after the sexual revolution took hold.

It was all great spectacle for sure, very entertaining. But what is spectacle for one generation becomes the norm for their children, inundated with the air waves from the time they get up until the time they go to sleep.
Pandora's box is opened. We cannot unsee or unhear anything that we have already seen and heard.
But we do need to realize that the death of community standards does have some very detrimental consequences.

I agree to the point where I had another epiphany about the election of trump during the general election. NPR asked a woman who was a trump voter why she would still vote for him even after his "grab em by the..." remark. The woman's response was, "I'm voting for president, not husband.".

It was that day I realized the right had given up their losing strategy of finding a candidate that was both pure, and a good candidate for the job. That's the day I began believing that Trump could win.

 

[variant]

Believers understand well, that no matter what happens is God's will.
Makes our lives so much easier.
He has the plan and we don't.
MB

They tend to generally point that out when they agree with whatever is going on.

 

[variant]

I strongly agree with that.

Regarding my situation, it wasn't me trying to work out "God wills it". Rather, it was just so unlikely, yet it still happened, the argument could be made, though no laws of physics were violated. I strongly believe that God is directly responsible for some things, like the four actual miracles I've experienced in my life. But lets be frank. Our very existence is divine intervention.

I guess Hitler and Stalin then too.

 

[PeachyKeane]

I strongly disagree with that statement - at least in the US. The right is a name for conservatives, which is actually a modern name for "Classical Liberals". They have nothing in common with Nazis. The Nazis may be labelled "the right" in Germany, but that is another story.

The labels "right" and "left" are the most subjective labels one can use.

And here is a fun youtube video demonstrating how labels can be horribly inaccurate. (It is pretty funny)

That's great, but they've labelled themselves the right: i.e. Unite the Right, Alt-Right. They predominantly vote for right wing candidates, including Donald Trump. I mean, how low has the right sunk, that they are driving cars, full speed into crowds of liberals. That's what terrorists do.

The posts I'm referring to (and this thread in general) are saying we should generalize 'the left' as being of a single uideology that those on the left are uniformly in agreement with, that the left always uses hate speech, and this is all illustrated best by the comedy of Michelle Wolf.

Rather than disagreeing with that, I'm asking if they are sure this is the sword they want to live by, because the left is not going to demonstrate the values of the right by pointing at comedians.

 

[Easy Listener]

I guess Hitler and Stalin then too.

That is exactly the argument I make with Roman's 13 literalists. And the interesting thing is that the best argument against your and my argument is this: God sometimes puts a leader in place not to improve the quality of life of his people, but to damage it. The people pleaded and he eventually gave them a King, much to their regret.

God is playing chess and we're playing checkers. And we're trying to kibitz his moves. It's kinda funny.

 

[PeachyKeane]

Didn't take long for that one to spew to the top did it.

Please take note -- we do not support them and neither does Trump -- stop with the Kake News.

We of this household and none in our church which we are attending today support those people, so why do you keep saying that. It's such a ridiculous claim and yet,they keep putting it out there.

How embarrassing for our Country.

M-Bob

Bob, 'the right' clearly embraces these types into their ranks. You walk arm in arm with Nazis. I've talked to several white nationalists in this site, they're all right-wingers. Looking at the threads you've started Bob, it's pretty clear you demonize the left (nearly daily it seems) but are pretty okay with Nazis. Not a single post denouncing them.

But mire than that Bob, you're a right-winger, and I can point to dozens, probably hundreds of YouTube videos of White Nationalists demonizing liberals, and embracing Trump. Heck, you might be among them.

 

[Easy Listener]

That's great, but they've labelled themselves the right: i.e. Unite the Right, Alt-Right. They predominantly vote for right wing candidates, including Donald Trump.

The posts I'm referring to (and this thread in general) are saying we should generalize 'the left' as being of a single uideology that those on the left are uniformly in agreement with, that the left always uses hate speech, and this is all illustrated best by the comedy of Michelle Wolf.

Rather than disagreeing with that, I'm asking if they are sure this is the sword they want to live by, because the left is not going to demonstrate the values of the right by pointing at comedians.

The far right groups are a side show. They are an irrelevance, except for those that want to attach them to their political enemies.

What makes the fr left an issue is that they are actually gaining power in the D party. It's like seeing alt-right leaders become legitimate candidates with an R next to their name. That is not happening with the R party, it's a real concern for thinking Democrats, though because it IS happening in the D party.

I'm neither R or D, but find this dynamic fascinating. In a very real way, one party is doubling down on stupid, while the other is gaining in popularity and being quite successful with it's political achievements, at least as I type this.

 

[dqhall]

Breakdown of community standards has its consequences.
For generations now, the mantra of the left side of politics is that that nobody ought to shove their morality down people's throats. One standard after another was dismantled, because 'it is wrong to shove your morality down anyone's throat'.
For one example, Howard Stern would never have been allowed to air his program anytime before the 1970's.
Trump was part of that show. Trump is a part of the phenomena that emerged from having standards dismantled. He is part of the tawdry media events that came to dominate the air waves after the sexual revolution took hold.

It was all great spectacle for sure, very entertaining. But what is spectacle for one generation becomes the norm for their children, inundated with the air waves from the time they get up until the time they go to sleep.
Pandora's box is opened. We cannot unsee or unhear anything that we have already seen and heard.
But we do need to realize that the death of community standards does have some very detrimental consequences.

If the right were so righteous, they would have found someone less perverted to send to the White House. All this p***y groping bragging, multiple lawsuits regarding inappropriate touching, non-disclosure agreements with porn stars is not to be blamed on the left. Trump did not want morality.

Name me one president who ever had three wives. Trump is the first. There were five presidents who had two wives. Of these five; four remarried after their first wives died. Reagan was the first president to be remarried after divorce. He was a Republican.

Trump is the second president to have married a foreign born wife. Two out of three of his wives were foreign born. Those foreign born wives were born in countries that were communist at the time of their birth. One was part of the Soviet Union.