Is it "Christian" to Attack other Faiths?

[ByGrace]

I am new here, but I've quickly noticed that it seems to be open season on so called non-Christian faiths (e.g., Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints). Is such a practice "Christian?"

That is the problem here. You call it attacking and I call it revealing. If I was to not try and show the mormons the error of the way they are going then I would not be doing my job as a Christian. Yes, I do attack the heresies, lies, and damnable teachings that the mormon church has espoused but that does not carry over to the people themselves. They, like me are just sinners in need of the free Grace of God.

 

[Rescued One]

Really? Examples?

Why do you need examples? A man refused to be faithful to his wife and was ex-communicated.

 

[Rescued One]

Hi there!



That's interesting because my Bible tells me in the book of John that we walk in the light as we are given the light. If a brother or sister in Christ is on a different level than I am in their Christian journey, then it is not my determination to condemn them out of a congregation.

Every believer continues in transgressions until they are perfected through death. Or has that concept changed? I'm not into progressive revelation, so maybe I missed something that was added to the Bible?


~serapha~

1 Corinthians 5
11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

Matthew 18
15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

 

[happyinhisgrace]

No, but in fact since the very instant christians became a majority they did just that.

Christianity has never been the majority in the world, there are still to this day more non-Christians than there are Christians.

Grace

 

[Temple Dog]

I’ve never considered being a Christian a job (or a career for that matter); instead I consider it simply a way of behaving toward others, particularly since all Christians are representing Christ. Always remember that whenever you are speaking about faith to another, particularly someone who isn’t Christian, you are speaking for Christ and by your words and actions they (your audience) will judge Christ.

If you show only judgment and intolerance in your words, then they will never see Christ’s love.

Helaman, I’m sorry you’ve experienced such negative behavior; personally, such behavior makes me ashamed to be a Christian and if I didn’t know better I’d probably loose all hope.

Sincerely,
TD

 

[happyinhisgrace]

I’ve never considered being a Christian a job (or a career for that matter); instead I consider it simply a way of behaving toward others, particularly since all Christians are representing Christ. Always remember that whenever you are speaking about faith to another, particularly someone who isn’t Christian, you are speaking for Christ and by your words and actions they (your audience) will judge Christ.

If you show only judgment and intolerance in your words, then they will never see Christ’s love.

Helaman, I’m sorry you’ve experienced such negative behavior; personally, such behavior makes me ashamed to be a Christian and if I didn’t know better I’d probably loose all hope.

Sincerely,
TD

Nothing makes me ashamed to be a Christian, nothing. I feel truly sorry for you if the behavors or professing of truth by Christians makes you ashamed to be one. I could never be ashamed to be in Christ and to be very honest with you, you are the first Christian I have EVER heard say such a thing.
Grace

 

[AMMON]

Last I heard, when Joseph Smith, Jr. died, he still held that every church except the LDS was wrong.

Are you saying Joseph Smith wasn't behaving like a Christian when he wrote that?

Those were the words of JESUS CHRIST, which the Prophet Joseph Smith quoted. Christ has the right to judge. And "holding" that every other church is wrong is not the same as actively attacking them. Belief is not action.

 

[skylark1]

Those were the words of JESUS CHRIST, which the Prophet Joseph Smith quoted. Christ has the right to judge. And "holding" that every other church is wrong is not the same as actively attacking them. Belief is not action.

Hi Ammon,

How do you define "actively attacking" a religion?

 

[AMMON]

Hi Ammon,

How do you define "actively attacking" a religion?

In the case of this website, creating threads or posts specifically designed to entrap and/or mock the beliefs and/or members of another faith with baited statements/questions... a ruthless practice known among we trial lawyers as "impeachment." Such threads and posts are all too common herein.

 

[skylark1]

There are threads and posts that were created to discuss the differences in beliefs between LDS and orthodox Christianity. Not all are created to entrap or mock. I think that the majority are not created to entrap or mock, but to rationally discuss.

 

[AMMON]

There are threads and posts that were created to discuss the differences in beliefs between LDS and orthodox Christianity. Not all are created to entrap or mock. I think that the majority are not created to entrap or mock, but to rationally discuss.

I agree, but there are plenty of the impeachment-oriented ones, and it is to those which I refer. I don't know to what the original poster of this thread referred.

 

[Svt4Him]

I’ve never considered being a Christian a job (or a career for that matter); instead I consider it simply a way of behaving toward others, particularly since all Christians are representing Christ. Always remember that whenever you are speaking about faith to another, particularly someone who isn’t Christian, you are speaking for Christ and by your words and actions they (your audience) will judge Christ.

If you show only judgment and intolerance in your words, then they will never see Christ’s love.

Helaman, I’m sorry you’ve experienced such negative behavior; personally, such behavior makes me ashamed to be a Christian and if I didn’t know better I’d probably loose all hope.

Sincerely,
TD

As posted before:

"Judge not lest you be judged."

The world often takes this verse out of context and uses it to accuse Christians of being "judgmental" when they speak of sin. In the context of the verse Jesus is telling His disciples not to judge one another, something the Bible condemns (Romans 14:10; James 4:11). In Luke 6:41,42 He speaks of seeing a speck in a brother’s eye. In John 7:24 He said, "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." If someone steals, lies, commits adultery or murder, etc., the Christian can make a (righteous) moral judgment and say that the actions were morally wrong, and that these sins will have eternal consequences. Chuck Colson said, "True tolerance is not a total lack of judgment. It’s knowing what should be tolerated—and refusing to tolerate that which shouldn’t."

 

[Rescued One]

As posted before:

"Judge not lest you be judged."

The world often takes this verse out of context and uses it to accuse Christians of being "judgmental" when they speak of sin. In the context of the verse Jesus is telling His disciples not to judge one another, something the Bible condemns (Romans 14:10; James 4:11). In Luke 6:41,42 He speaks of seeing a speck in a brother’s eye. In John 7:24 He said, "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." If someone steals, lies, commits adultery or murder, etc., the Christian can make a (righteous) moral judgment and say that the actions were morally wrong, and that these sins will have eternal consequences. Chuck Colson said, "True tolerance is not a total lack of judgment. It’s knowing what should be tolerated—and refusing to tolerate that which shouldn’t."

Excellent post.

 

[AMMON]

Excellent post.

We agree on something.

 

[Godzman]

I am new here, but I've quickly noticed that it seems to be open season on so called non-Christian faiths (e.g., Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints). Is such a practice "Christian?"

A big resounding NO

 

[ByGrace]

Those were the words of JESUS CHRIST, which the Prophet Joseph Smith quoted. Christ has the right to judge. And "holding" that every other church is wrong is not the same as actively attacking them. Belief is not action.

For you to believe such tripe shows how very little you know of the nature of God.

 

[AMMON]

For you to believe such tripe shows how very little you know of the nature of God.

I sense such hostility from you. Really, is that what Christ would portray?

 

[Svt4Him]

I sense such hostility from you. Really, is that what Christ would portray?

Totally aside, I think this is an interesting question. Usually when posted it's to show how Jesus was a mild mannered person. It's easy to forget the time He threw tables over, called people son's of snakes and invented a derogatory term to call people who weren't sincere, which we now know as a hypocrite.

Not that that's applicable here, but an interesting perspective, IMO.

 

[AMMON]

Christ's cleansing of the Temple was done with His authority as the Divine Son of God the Eternal Father. ByGrace has no such authority.

 

[elderbell]

Ammon, it's ok bro. People percieve Mormons to be attacking and judgemental, because we know we belong to the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. And all we want to do is bring people back to him, however, it is not us that do it....we must merely be the worthy vessel in which the Lord gathers his flock. For only his chosen seed will heed the spoken word. Latter-Days Saints are Christians, and we are the only true church, if you believe that Ammon then just let the other stuff slide like water off a duck's back. I respect the fact that others of different sects want to know god. But those churches were established by men for men. They hold some truths, but are not the way back to him. Just as Joseph Smith read James 1:5 and did accordingly, he saw God the Father and his Only Begotten Son. I want those of you to print out the following entry and read it, then read James 1:5 and earnestly, and honestly pray for the truth. Joseph Smith's 1st Vision: "I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head, above the brightness of the sun, which descended gradually until it fell upon me. When the light rested upon me I saw two personages, who's brightness and glory defy all description, stand above me in the air. One of them spake unto me calling me by name, pointing to the other and said...this is my Beloved Son-Hear him." That passage has touched me more than anything I have ever read. And Ammon, one thing I have learned is not to see other people's faults as bad as they are. For instance, Micheal Jackson...he may or may not have mental issues, but he so musically talented, and considering the abuse he suffered, he is a loving person. Mike Tyson, a hard worker, and has suffered a great deal of struggle and confusion. There are always better ways to look at people. Whether it be Charles Manson, or Al Capone...they deserve the same treatment as everyone else. To extend the hand of help, instead of the rod of Judgement. Only God can judge, as bad as we may think people are, Christ would hold that person and lovingly help them overcome there earthly struggles, even the murderer and the adulterer. The true nature of Christ, of Heavenly Father's plan, is not about condemnation, but about sanctification. Christ wants to makes things clean, Satan is the one that thrives on making things blown up to bigger than they are. Would Christ publicize or scrutinize things we consider to be scandals and "NEWS"...not really, he's not a member of the Paparazzi...he's a member of our family.(Actually, we are a member of his) If we could all have that same attitude towards people...how awesome would this world be. Im out. EB.