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Is it Bad to push yourself with chronic depression?

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Im an over achiever and I get frustrated when I don't succeed which happens a lot. I breakdown and start getting suicidal and hysterical easy.

Wondering if it's better to not push myself to get a job in my field (science) that pays alot and settle for any job I can do that's easy where I can keep it and not become so depressed and anxious.

I finished a biochem degree but these days cant make it through a day without feeling anxious, depressed, or dealing with ocd. Accept I need to take it easy or should I keep trying to push past?

I'm currently sitting in a chair visiting with family and I feel like crying and nothing is happening bad! I'm going for a psyche eval in a month but a counselor already said he thinks I have chronic depression, general anxiety disorder, and OCD.

Thank you
 
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Im an over achiever and I get frustrated when I don't succeed which happens a lot. I breakdown and start getting suicidal and hysterical easy.

Wondering if it's better to not push myself to get a job in my field (science) that pays alot and settle for any job I can do that's easy where I can keep it and not become so depressed and anxious.

I finished a biochem degree but these days cant makemit through a day without feeling anxious, depressed, or dealing with ocd. Accept I need to take it easy or should I keep trying to push past?

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I don't think pushing past is the answer.
 
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Maybe the job itself won't help with your mood so don't settle for something beneath your education because you think an easy job may be the answer. Plus,sometimes lower paying 'easy' jobs are even more stressful because you're treated like an expendable work horse. Better jobs usually also mean better benefits, paid time off, better insurance, and upward mobility. Maybe you need a temporary change of scenery, like a long vacation?
 
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I just don't want to be a failure in my owns eyes and in everyone else's eyes I wanted to be talented and noticed for something important.

Medical laboratory technician is what I'm trying to get my certification in and the teachers said you have to be mentally okay for the career. I know I'm not mentally okay. I just thought I'd ignore it and just deal cause I need money and job security. I also need my degree not to be a waste.

I'm scared though because realistically I know that I am losing it. I feel like I'm on the verge of a serious meltdown and I don't want it to get worse where I seriously embarrass myself or mess something up badly and someone else suffers because I'm depressed. I'm really scared I can't handle anything.
 
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Yes that is how i kept functioning for many years my life misery behind the facade. When we are ill then we need rest and healing. We need to be gentle with ourselves and caring not pushy and demanding.

To nurture a tender plant one doesn't stress it. Understand yourself like someone who needs tender loving care and deal kindly and thoughtfully towards yourself (and others,) at all times. It carries great rewards.

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I don't know a thing about your depression, so take this with a grain of salt. I know when I'm depressed the worst thing I can do is take it easy. I"m like your mom, my natural tendency is just to sleep all day. Getting out and doing something is about the only thing that helps. It helps me take my mind off myself and on to other things. That said I had a very stressful job once, that kept me constantly freaked out. You need to find a happy medium, that works for you. Also doing physical activity (even though getting out of bed was the last thing I wanted to do) often helped me feel better.
 
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Im an over achiever and I get frustrated when I don't succeed which happens a lot. I breakdown and start getting suicidal and hysterical easy.

Wondering if it's better to not push myself to get a job in my field (science) that pays alot and settle for any job I can do that's easy where I can keep it and not become so depressed and anxious.

I finished a biochem degree but these days cant make it through a day without feeling anxious, depressed, or dealing with ocd. Accept I need to take it easy or should I keep trying to push past?

I'm currently sitting in a chair visiting with family and I feel like crying and nothing is happening bad! I'm going for a psyche eval in a month but a counselor already said he thinks I have chronic depression, general anxiety disorder, and OCD.

Thank you
If you learn to work for self improvement (To better your skill's) and to continue learning, thing's in your mind will improve dramatically.
 
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I probably need to clarify.

I majored in biochemistry.
I am working part time in retail pharmacy for the first time in my life.
I am studying medical technology (which is generating and reading people's medical laboratory results).

Hobbies I have are programming, writing, and painting.

I was diagnosed with chronic depression, anxiety, and OCD. I have been having constant panic attacks and suicidal thoughts and I can't handle stress.

With all this information, I'm trying to decide logically does it even make sense for me to pursue what I'm pursuing with all my mental health disabilities. I'm scared my myntal health makes me a liability to myself and others and that if I keep pushing something bad will eventually happen. Therefore, that's why I'm wondering if it's better for people with mental problems like this to stay out of careers with this much responsibility.
 
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You haven't failed. You have a degree and ambition. And if you're young you have a lot of time. Just keep doing the next right thing. In the meantime you need to relax. Who the heck cares how you look in everyone else's eyes? Just be careful if they immediately try to put you on meds. Do your research. Try exercise before Paxil. Change your diet. Get more sleep. Are the meds helping your mother's situation? Probably not.
 
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Im an over achiever and I get frustrated when I don't succeed which happens a lot. I breakdown and start getting suicidal and hysterical easy.

Wondering if it's better to not push myself to get a job in my field (science) that pays alot and settle for any job I can do that's easy where I can keep it and not become so depressed and anxious.

I finished a biochem degree but these days cant make it through a day without feeling anxious, depressed, or dealing with ocd. Accept I need to take it easy or should I keep trying to push past?

I'm currently sitting in a chair visiting with family and I feel like crying and nothing is happening bad! I'm going for a psyche eval in a month but a counselor already said he thinks I have chronic depression, general anxiety disorder, and OCD.

Thank you

One guy I know sells BBQ meat from a tiny storefront and is selling the building
and business for 300K. That's a nice result for an overachiever.
I think he's selling becasue there is more money in "Event sales" where
you go to open markets and fairs and travel more.
 
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You definitely haven't failed. I spent a life time with severe depression and learned I had bipolar disorder with the biggest side being the depression. I was in the out of hospitals for years for suicidal stuff. One thing did help though - my dream and my interests. While pushing too hard can create damage, pushing a little can help us through. You have to decide what your limits are between enough and too much, as each of us are individuals. I will tell you that I was able to continue with my studies, though it took a lot longer to get through school with that all going on. And I entered into the mental health field for my career. I don't see that a lot different than following your career dreams. Doesn't mean you won't ever be depressed again, or never need to take a break such as "vacation time" from work to care for your psyche and soul, but you can move forward many people do so every day. Don't write yourself off for a future if that's really what you want to do.
 
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Im an over achiever and I get frustrated when I don't succeed which happens a lot. I breakdown and start getting suicidal and hysterical easy.

Wondering if it's better to not push myself to get a job in my field (science) that pays alot and settle for any job I can do that's easy where I can keep it and not become so depressed and anxious.

I finished a biochem degree but these days cant make it through a day without feeling anxious, depressed, or dealing with ocd. Accept I need to take it easy or should I keep trying to push past?

I'm currently sitting in a chair visiting with family and I feel like crying and nothing is happening bad! I'm going for a psyche eval in a month but a counselor already said he thinks I have chronic depression, general anxiety disorder, and OCD.

Thank you

I want to recommend a book for you that has helped me with my nerves. The book is called “Anxious For Nothing; Calm in a chaotic world” by Max Lucado. It will give insight to what’s behind anxiousness and how the Word address it. It’s a light read, but it hits major points. For example, how we self-guilt ourselves when we are not perfect and that anxiety hyper focus our thoughts to the point of sinning.
 
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I just don't want to be a failure in my owns eyes and in everyone else's eyes I wanted to be talented and noticed for something important.

Medical laboratory technician is what I'm trying to get my certification in and the teachers said you have to be mentally okay for the career. I know I'm not mentally okay. I just thought I'd ignore it and just deal cause I need money and job security. I also need my degree not to be a waste.

I'm scared though because realistically I know that I am losing it. I feel like I'm on the verge of a serious meltdown and I don't want it to get worse where I seriously embarrass myself or mess something up badly and someone else suffers because I'm depressed. I'm really scared I can't handle anything.
There is one, and only one, way to be a success in your own eyes - follow the Lord's commandments. It always works.
 
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It has to do with priorities. If you keep pushing yourself like you do then you will most likely crack up and break down and wont be any good achieving for some time. However if you learn to accept that you need special care and you look after yourself real good. Like learning to deal with anxiety, stress management, do mental relaxation exercises, learn to mindful of yourself and your own needs. This includes to achieve but also includes relaxation, stress management and ways of dealing with your anxieties.

If you want succeed in life then you have to learn the lesson of survival and that is learning to look after your own health. Focus your determination on getting control over your mental well being and see where that leads you.

Peace
 
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Regardless of how you feel at your worst times, please believe that you are not a failure in any way and you are most precious and loved by the one who matters most God.
I would go a little bit easy on yourself as you have achieved so much already.
There is plenty of time for you to push on if you feel the need to later on but while you feel fragile be kind to yourself and immerse yourself in the word of God and allow the peace that passes all understanding flood your soul.
You say you are working part time at the moment, maybe for the time this is more than enough for you, I think you are doing really well to be doing this.
I do plead that you don't set your worthiness as a person on what your job is or how the world sees "success" as your benchmark is God and what He thinks of you :His precious child.
I find Psalms 27 and 46 are a great comfort.
God bless you.
 
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Any job can cause stress. Sometimes a blue collar one can be more stressful. Stay with your current career plan and take you medication. I have anxiety issues and take medicine for them. Try to exercise a little also. That helps me. God bless.
 
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I just don't want to be a failure in my owns eyes and in everyone else's eyes I wanted to be talented and noticed for something important.

Medical laboratory technician is what I'm trying to get my certification in and the teachers said you have to be mentally okay for the career. I know I'm not mentally okay. I just thought I'd ignore it and just deal cause I need money and job security. I also need my degree not to be a waste.

I'm scared though because realistically I know that I am losing it. I feel like I'm on the verge of a serious meltdown and I don't want it to get worse where I seriously embarrass myself or mess something up badly and someone else suffers because I'm depressed. I'm really scared I can't handle anything.

First off, you are talented and you are doing something important. :) It easy for people to judge others when they don't share their experiences or problems. Ultimately, it's about being valued and valuing yourself and finding the healthiest ways of achieving that.

If you say you are "on the verge of a serious meltdown" because you feel that you are testing the limits of your ability to cope, it is probably worth while reducing the amount of stress in your life. This doesn't automatically mean changing your career path, but you can look at certain lifestyle changes that can reduce anxiety/depression and stress. Sometimes little improvements can make the difference (as well as helping your self esteem along the way). We aren't born anxious or depressed and (complex academic debates aside) it is something we can learn, so it follows we can learn our way out of it too.

I can recommend reducing the amount of time you watch Television or use the internet as these things tend to have effects even after they are turned off. Irrespective of what you are watching or doing on them, they tend to be habit forming and condition you in to a certain state of mind. In practice, it means giving up control of your emotions to other people, whether they be the producers or actors in your favourite show or people you interact with online.

Generally speaking, cutting out TV/Internet has one major benefit which is that you have more hours in the day. The average person watches 3-4 hours of TV a day, so you can use it to do other things. I have installed an app on my laptop which bans me from being able to access the internet, so I have been able to do things offline more. It's amazing how distracting and addictive it can be. I currently have a checklist on my wall for jobs I need to do once a week and a chart that tracks foods I'm eating which I probably shouldn't. It's small, but my room is fairly tidy and I've lost a couple of pounds. Still a long way to go, but any improvement is good. [note: checklists can be a double-edged sword if you tend to focus on little details so be kind to yourself. it is not a torture device and if it starts to feel that way it's worth reconsidering using them at all.:D]

If you drink lots of tea, or coffee or have a high caffeine intake, that could increase your anxiety too. It is addictive and the difference may be noticeable. If you have depression, don't touch alcohol as it will make it worse.

I'm stuck in a rural area and so I'm very isolated, but having regular trips out and visiting people for face-to-face interaction is a must. talking over the phone or texting is never quite the same and getting outside away from all the stress at home maybe just to buy some new clothes or have a lunch can really break up the routine and get us out of the cycle of thoughts going round in our head. Simply going for a walk is a great idea (I have cats, but if you have a dog- taking it for a walk is a great excuse to get outside regularly).

Keeping a journal can help as a space to write out your thoughts, as can listening to music to change your mood either to relax or help you concentrate when your working on a project.

You could probably come up with more and these sorts of changes may seem daunting at first. There are options but they may not be obvious so you have to be willing to experiment and see what works for you. Not drinking and not having a TV felt strangely anti-social until I don't notice them anymore. Talk with your counsellor and get advice that will deal with your situation more specifically.

Feeling suicidal is an ugly experience and very difficult to share because you feel like your letting people down or hurting them by admitting you are that unhappy. Talking about it online can be helpful because you are anonymous and people don't take it so personally- they just see it as someone in distress and opening up to strangers online isn't so scary. Suicidal thoughts are usually an impulsive desire to "escape" situations and will pass (in my case maybe in a few hours after I go out or do something else which take me away from those thoughts). It may be triggered by specific ideas or experiences, so over time you may feel more confident to open up about it and explore why they act as triggers (for me, its an acute sense of futility and powerlessness that nothing I do will actually change anything). A little bit of self-knowledge can be really helpful because it makes it easier to navigate the inner landscape of how you feel and gives you a bit more control.

There may come a point when you decide you want to take a different career path, but it is your decision. Everyone else can go screw themselves because they don't know what you are going through. In truth, the people who would call you a "failure" are almost always insecure cowards maintaining a hollow conformist facade who are secretly disappointed with their lives and find the fact someone else is willing to take risks and make improvements for themselves intimidating. They hate life and they try to suck it out of people because they are so scared of living. We all make mistakes and we all made bad decisions- but that's part of the process of growing up. In 1000 years, we'll all be dead and no-one will remember us anyway and that can be depressing but it also means most of the things we think limit us aren't as solid as they first appear; they can be broken and there is no shame taking risks you think are worth while.

If your still feeling a bit worried, here's a picture of some kittens to help the process. :D

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Im an over achiever and I get frustrated when I don't succeed which happens a lot. I breakdown and start getting suicidal and hysterical easy.

Wondering if it's better to not push myself to get a job in my field (science) that pays alot and settle for any job I can do that's easy where I can keep it and not become so depressed and anxious.

I finished a biochem degree but these days cant make it through a day without feeling anxious, depressed, or dealing with ocd. Accept I need to take it easy or should I keep trying to push past?

I'm currently sitting in a chair visiting with family and I feel like crying and nothing is happening bad! I'm going for a psyche eval in a month but a counselor already said he thinks I have chronic depression, general anxiety disorder, and OCD.

Thank you
Hey! It's pretty common to experience anxiety after finishing a degree, especially one like biochem, that has all but sucked the lifeblood out of you during the years of studying. The very nature of that degree requires a person to lean toward perfectionism and OCD tendencies. Nice to hear you are going to a counselor. Is it a Christian counselor? I only ask because I'd think it important to bring God into the picture. Since you're posting on this forum, I'd say you have some type of faith, correct? For what it's worth, I think you're at a crossroads, wondering about the next step. I'll say this. God has brought you through college and to this point in your life. He isn't going to let you down. Regarding the job search....often straight out of college grads need to work their way up in a company, so you'll be able to gradually feel comfortable with the job and then advance accordingly. As far as mistakes, we all make them-at every job we've every had. It comes with the territory. But, that's where prayer comes in. God will help you every hour, if you ask him to! As far as taking it easy-my answer is no! Let God direct you and open doors of opportunity. Start with a stepping stone job and then work your way up! No job is forever and remember-everyone makes mistakes. Mistakes are simply the opportunity to figure out what to do differently next time! Hopefully you're plugged into a great church and have a decent support group around you. I'll be praying for you!
 
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