Is Human Equality just a concept?

[Adrian Moir]

Commy's what? Ah, it's 'Commies' I guess you meant. Luckily, you and I live in a free society that allows its members the right to form political parties as they so wish: Home - Australian Communist Party

Good luck getting Voltair or Nietzsche to be recognized on anything important... Like a calendar for example...Because no one celebrates Atheism...Esspecially in Siberia.

The Communist Party Dissolution Act 1950
The coalition's Communist Party Dissolution Act 1950 became law on 20 October 1950. The Act included three measures to deal with communism: ... The Governor-General was authorized to declare a person as a communist and engaged, or likely to engage, in activities prejudicial to Australia's security and defence.

Australia Trade Minister Tells China Sovereignty Non-Negotiable
Australian Trade Minister Dan Tehan said the government will protect the country’s sovereignty and national interest, in response to a warning from China’s ambassador that it will “respond in kind” if Canberra joins sanctions on officials accused of human rights abuses.
International tensions have flared over reports of forced labor being used to harvest cotton in China’s western province of Xinjiang, prompting several countries to sanction Communist Party officials. Beijing has dismissed the accusations about its behavior against the predominantly Muslim Uyghurs as politically motivated lies. Late last month it announced retaliatory sanctions on individuals in the U.S. and Canada, adding to those imposed earlier on the U.K. and European Union.

Australia’s Foreign Minister Marise Payne, in a March 23 joint statement with her New Zealand counterpart, said that the government had “grave concerns” over reports of human rights abuses against Uyghur and other Muslim minorities in Xinjiang, and welcomed the measures taken by the U.S., Canada, the U.K. and the EU.

Wikipedia
According to sociologists Ariela Keysar and Juhem Navarro-Rivera's review of numerous global studies on atheism, there are 450 to 500 million positive atheists and agnostics worldwide (7% of the world's population), with China having the most atheists in the world (200 million convinced atheists).

 

[Larniavc]

If your rational stems from believing that chemical reactions can become self-aware

Good job I don’t- do go on.

as it defies the law of thermodynamic entropy

It doesn’t- but go on.

Genetic instructions were needed for life to occur in any event so the real question here is: where's the evidence that instructions can arise from nature?
Because as it stands, the only method by way of example which can bring instructions into existence is by creativity, and there is no other method.

Neither of these are true- do go on.

The last bit is a bit of a mess- what is it you think this shows?

 

[Bradskii]

-The Linnean Society's website on scientific racism.
-The Unite states holocaust memorial museum website on Nazi racial science.
-And not to mention the encyclopedia as well.

C'mon Adrian. Scientific racism is a pseudoscience. Long discredited. Even the term 'race' has no real scientific meaning. So it's not surprising that you can find people confirming that (not to mention 'the encyclopaedia').

Do you understand what the fallacy 'strawman' means? It means that you are using a contrived and irrelevant position which is easy to discredit rather than addressing the actual subject. Notwithstanding that you are conflating atheism, nihilism, communism and racism. Have I missed any other -isms? Oh yeah...Darwinism. You're all over the place.

 

[Adrian Moir]

Commy's what? Ah, it's 'Commies' I guess you meant. Luckily, you and I live in a free society that allows its members the right to form political parties as they so wish: Home - Australian Communist Party

Why did Australia ban the Communist Party?
In summary, the High Court decided that because Australia was not in a state of war the government did not have the power to proscribe organizations. Moreover, the Act prevented the Communist Party and its members from disproving allegations made against them. -Australian Government website



Australia commits to Korea
Korea's national conflict had rapidly become one of global significance. Troops of many nations, including Australia, joined the fight against the North Korean invasion of the South. There were many reasons for Australia's involvement in Korea, such as concern for the security of the region, and a desire to strengthen its military relationship with the US with a commitment of troops. This relationship was to prove a far-reaching one: it not only led to the ANZUS treaty, but influenced Australia's later commitment of troops to the war in Vietnam.
The outbreak of war found Australia already involved in fighting a communist insurgency in Malaya. Australia was the first country following the US to commit units of all three services to Korea: a naval frigate on 29 June, 77 Squadron, RAAF, on 30 June, and an infantry battalion from the Australian component of the British Commonwealth Occupation Forces in Japan (BCOF) on 26 July.
The commitment had broad support in Australia, with different groups seeing it as an opportunity to fight communism, cement Australia's alliance with the United States, or give support to the United Nations system of collective security. -The Australian War Memorial website



The Communist Party Dissolution Act
On 23 June 1950, the Communist Party Dissolution Bill (1950) was introduced. In his speech introducing the Bill, PM Menzies read out the names of 53 members of the Communist Party of Australia, referring to them as a "traitorous minority" which threatened the security of the nation. The Bill passed the House of Representatives, but struggled to pass the Senate, which had a Labor party majority. Labor senators agreed that the Communist Party should be dissolved, but held reservations about allowing the Governor-General to 'declare' people communists.
These reservations were especially strong after Menzies admitted that the names of Communist Party members which had been read out on the House floor contained errors. Amendments were proposed that removed this power, but the Labor Party later withdrew its opposition and the Bill passed the Senate without amendments on 19 October 1950. It was brought into effect as the Communist Party Dissolution Act (1950) on 20 October 1950. Wikipedia

 

[Bradskii]

Good luck getting Voltair or Nietzsche to be recognized on anything important... Like a calendar for example...

I love a challenge...

 

[Bradskii]

Why did Australia ban the Communist Party?

That's really odd. You ask why the Australian government banned the Communist party and then quote from a government website giving the reasons why they couldn't.

In summary, the High Court decided that because Australia was not in a state of war the government did not have the power to proscribe organizations. Moreover, the Act prevented the Communist Party and its members from disproving allegations made against them. -Australian Government website

 

[Adrian Moir]

I love a challenge...


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....Gee? Nice centre fold...But could you cover it up because I think the ladies won't be impressed.

We have 5 important public holidays devoted to Jesus each year, and one day in seven also.
And you make like Fredrick Nietzsche is a center fold model now...As though he was a figher fighter or something?...LOL. Nice try.

What is the oldest calendar in the world?
The oldest calendar still in use is the Jewish calendar, which has been in popular use since the 9th century BC. It is based on biblical calculations that place the creation at 3761 BC.

Wikipedia
The Hebrew calendar (Hebrew: הַלּוּחַ הָעִבְרִי‎, romanized: HaLuah HaIvri), also called Jewish calendar, is a lunisolar calendar used today for Jewish religious observance, and as an official calendar of the state of Israel. It determines the dates for Jewish holidays and the appropriate public reading of Torah portions, yahrzeits (dates to commemorate the death of a relative), and daily Psalm readings, among many ceremonial uses. In Israel, it is used for religious purposes, provides a time frame for agriculture, and is an official calendar for civil holidays, alongside the Gregorian calendar.

Can a lunisolar calendar predict orbital constellations?
A lunisolar calendar is a calendar whose date indicates both the moon phase and the time of the solar year. If the solar year is defined as a tropical year then a lunisolar calendar will give an indication of the season; if it is taken as a sidereal year then the calendar will predict the constellation near which the full moon may occur. Usually there is an additional requirement that the year has a whole number of months, in which case most years have 12 months but every second or third year has 13 months. -Lunisolar Calendar

 

[Adrian Moir]

That's really odd. You ask why the Australian government banned the Communist party and then quote from a government website giving the reasons why they couldn't.

Maybe you can mark the day the soviet union collapsed on your Nietzsche center fold calendar...Because an Atheist should know the "meaning" of complete failure once and a while...Don't you think?

 

[Adrian Moir]

Good job I don’t- do go on.


It doesn’t- but go on.




Neither of these are true- do go on.

The last bit is a bit of a mess- what is it you think this shows?

Allow me to make a few predictions here if I may:

I predict for one, that you cannot even provide one simple demonstration of how instructions can form from nature.

And second; I predict that any attempt you make will involve the terminology that is used to describe a cretion with, such as: design - make - produce...etc

And thirdly, I will predict that your attitude will degenerate rapidly through the process of trying to demonstrate the impossible.

 

[Adrian Moir]

That's really odd. You ask why the Australian government banned the Communist party and then quote from a government website giving the reasons why they couldn't.

The senate voted in favor of the communist party dissolution act, and it was only the public referendum that was rejected.

"the Bill passed the Senate without amendments on 19 October 1950. It was brought into effect as the Communist Party Dissolution Act."

Anything else...?

 

[ViaCrucis]

deleted, because meh

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Adrian Moir]

deleted, because meh

-CryptoLutheran

You're not going to be winning many awards engaging in blatant ad hominem flaming.
-CryptoLutheran

My reply
...I don't see any awards around in your name?...So maybe human rights is not your specialty. Which also means that you're just blowing smoke, and your best rebutal was a perverted reading of what salvation is in Christ Jesus' name.
Because, Jesus did not come to improve your vegitable patch at home, He came to lay down His life for the world though the world is at emnity with God. But God so loved the world that the standard for this love must be through self-sacrifice, because, without the sheding of blood there is no forgiveness of sin. And all sin is cleansed by God's grace alone according to the scriptures, as Christ died. Which means we have forgiveness of sin by God's grace through faith and by the resurection of the Lord, but, salvation is the eternal life according to scripture...Which is not ours to boast of from the world.


Revelation 7:10
And they cried out in a loud voice: “Salvation belongs to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.”

Revelation 12:10
Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah. For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down.

Revelation 19:1
After this I heard what sounded like the roar of a great multitude in heaven shouting: “Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God."

 

[ViaCrucis]

...I don't see any awards around in your name?...So maybe human rights is not your specialty. Which also means that you're just blowing smoke, and your best rebutal was a perverted reading of what salvation is in Christ Jesus' name.
Because, Jesus did not come to improve your vegitable patch at home, He came to lay down His life for the world though the world is at emnity with God. But God so loved the world that the standard for this love is self-sacrifice, because, without the sheding of blood there is no forgiveness of sin. And all sin is cleansed by God's grace alone according to the scriptures. Which means we have forgiveness of sin by God's grace through faith, but, salvation is the eternal life according to scripture.


Revelation 7:10
And they cried out in a loud voice: “Salvation belongs to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.”

Revelation 12:10
Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah. For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down.

Revelation 19:1
After this I heard what sounded like the roar of a great multitude in heaven shouting: “Hallelujah! Salvation and glory and power belong to our God."

Just so we're clear, I decided to not bother with pointing out your flagrant use of an ad hominem attack to flame another poster, and you decided to take aim at the statement I have in my signature? And not actually even address what my signature is saying, but just mention something about vegetable patches?

Are you okay? Do you need a hug?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Adrian Moir]

Just so we're clear, I decided to not bother with pointing out your flagrant use of an ad hominem attack to flame another poster, and you decided to take aim at the statement I have in my signature? And not actually even address what my signature is saying, but just mention something about vegetable patches?

Are you okay? Do you need a hug?

-CryptoLutheran

What else could I do?...There was a lack of content from your comment. So I resorted to the quote you sent. Mainly due to the fact that your theology was not correct...But also because your logic lacks common sense as well.
God bless

 

[Adrian Moir]

Just so we're clear, I decided to not bother with pointing out your flagrant use of an ad hominem attack to flame another poster, and you decided to take aim at the statement I have in my signature? And not actually even address what my signature is saying, but just mention something about vegetable patches?

Are you okay? Do you need a hug?

-CryptoLutheran

Sorry about all of your Popes being gay and everything, but most people prefer to remain...'open' to what they believe in...Ok?

The Atlantic
Did a Secret Vatican Report on Gay Sex and Blackmail Bring Down the Pope?
According to the Italian paper La Repubblica, the real reason Pope Benedict XVI resigned lies in a 300-page Vatican dossier that allegedly found an underground network of high-ranking gay clergy, complete with sex parties and shady dealings with the Vatican bank. Here's what we know.
Report by Alexander Abad-Santos

The report sounds menacing. According to La Repubblica, the dossier comes in two volumes, "two folders hard-bound in red" with the header "pontifical secret."

Pope Benedict asked for the investigation. "The paper said the pope had taken the decision on 17 December that he was going to resign — the day he received a dossier compiled by three cardinals delegated to look into the so-called 'Vatileaks' affair," according to the The Guardian's translation of the report.

The Vatican has a Velvet Mafia — and the Velvet Mafia is being blackmailed. The dossier alleges that a gay lobby exists within the Church, and has some sort of control on the careers of those in the Vatican. The dossier also alleges that this group isn't as covert as it thinks — and got blackmailed by people on the outside. "The cardinals were said to have uncovered an underground gay network, whose members organise sexual meetings in several venues in Rome and Vatican City, leaving them prone to blackmail," reads The Sydney Morning Herald's translation of the report, and The Guardian adds: "They included a villa outside the Italian capital, a sauna in a Rome suburb, a beauty parlour in the centre, and a former university residence that was in use by a provincial Italian archbishop."

 

[ViaCrucis]

What else could I do?...There was a lack of content from your comment. So I resorted to the quote you sent. Mainly due to the fact that your theology was not correct...But also because your logic lacks common sense as well.
God bless

Oy veh. Alright.

So I resorted to the quote you sent.

Not really though. You resorted to responding to my signature. Something appears on literally every post I have without my control, because it's set in my account settings.

Mainly due to the fact that your theology was not correct

I'd be more than happy to discuss the theology of the matter if you'd like in a more appropriate place on the forum, such as General Theology (and, hopefully, if you are willing to do so civilly). Nothing in my signature is contrary to ordinary, orthodox Christian teaching.

If you truly do disagree with what is in my signature, and not just whatever you seem to imagine is there (vegetable patch? Really? What on earth are you talking about?), then I would consider that grounds for concern, theologically speaking.

I can't think of anything in your basic description of salvation that I would disagree with, (though I am confident that there is much on the matter that we do disagree with if any such in depth discussion on the subject matter were to occur).

I'm not actually sure what it is you are taking issue with. Do you disagree with the resurrection? That God is going to set all things to rights? That God is going to bring about new heavens and new earth in the Age to Come? Because if so, then like I said, then there is a real theological problem. Because this is pretty basic Christianity 101 stuff. The Apostles' Creed says, "We believe ... in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God ... who suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, buried, dead, descended into the place of the dead, rose on third day, ascended into heaven, where He sits at the right hand of the Father. From whence He will come again to judge the living and the dead. ... We believe ... in the resurrection of the body and the life everlasting." The Nicene Creed spells it out with slightly more detail, "We believe ... in the life of the Age to Come." And all you have to do is look right there in St. John's Apocalypse which you've already quoted to see that in St. John's final vision he beholds the renewal of all creation, where we read, "Behold! I make all things new!"

But also because your logic lacks common sense as well.

Cool? What logic would that be? And could you demonstrate where I've used any fallacious reasoning so far? You seem to still be talking about what is written in my signature, so I am actually quite curious what your issue is with the "logic" of m signature might be.

God bless

Gotta be real honest, I don't think you really mean it. But may the Lord be also with you.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

Sorry about all of your Popes being gay and everything, but most people prefer to remain...'open' to what they believe in...Ok?

The Atlantic
Did a Secret Vatican Report on Gay Sex and Blackmail Bring Down the Pope?
According to the Italian paper La Repubblica, the real reason Pope Benedict XVI resigned lies in a 300-page Vatican dossier that allegedly found an underground network of high-ranking gay clergy, complete with sex parties and shady dealings with the Vatican bank. Here's what we know.
Report by Alexander Abad-Santos

The report sounds menacing. According to La Repubblica, the dossier comes in two volumes, "two folders hard-bound in red" with the header "pontifical secret."

Pope Benedict asked for the investigation. "The paper said the pope had taken the decision on 17 December that he was going to resign — the day he received a dossier compiled by three cardinals delegated to look into the so-called 'Vatileaks' affair," according to the The Guardian's translation of the report.

The Vatican has a Velvet Mafia — and the Velvet Mafia is being blackmailed. The dossier alleges that a gay lobby exists within the Church, and has some sort of control on the careers of those in the Vatican. The dossier also alleges that this group isn't as covert as it thinks — and got blackmailed by people on the outside. "The cardinals were said to have uncovered an underground gay network, whose members organise sexual meetings in several venues in Rome and Vatican City, leaving them prone to blackmail," reads The Sydney Morning Herald's translation of the report, and The Guardian adds: "They included a villa outside the Italian capital, a sauna in a Rome suburb, a beauty parlour in the centre, and a former university residence that was in use by a provincial Italian archbishop."

Wow.

Do I even bother to point out that I'm not even Roman Catholic? Or do I let you just keep going? Either way. Very...interesting.

God bless?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Adrian Moir]

Just so we're clear, I decided to not bother with pointing out your flagrant use of an ad hominem attack to flame another poster, and you decided to take aim at the statement I have in my signature? And not actually even address what my signature is saying, but just mention something about vegetable patches?

Are you okay? Do you need a hug?

-CryptoLutheran

Your not a protostant, and if you were it will not matter, because, you are not open with it. So as far as I'm concerned for the point of reference, you are hereby a catholic, and your crypto belief can go back to the vatican and take a knee there to your real crypto christ.

Is the Pope a communist?
Pope Francis's critique of free-market economics has made him an icon for the Left and prompted claims that he is a communist. The leader of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics has called capitalism a source of inequality at best - and at worst a killer. Is the Pope, as his critics claim, a red radical?
On his way back from the Victory Day Parade in Moscow last month, the Cuban leader Raul Castro stopped off in Rome to thank Pope Francis for his role in Cuba's rapprochement with the United States. "If the Pope continues this way," Castro said afterwards, "I will go back to praying and go back to the church - I am not joking." -BBC NEWS

 

[ViaCrucis]

Your not a protostant, and if you were it will not matter, because, you are not open with it. So as far as I'm concerned for the point of reference, you are hereby a catholic, and your crypto belief can go back to the vatican and take a knee there to your real crypto christ.

Is the Pope a communist?
Pope Francis's critique of free-market economics has made him an icon for the Left and prompted claims that he is a communist. The leader of the world's 1.2 billion Catholics has called capitalism a source of inequality at best - and at worst a killer. Is the Pope, as his critics claim, a red radical?
On his way back from the Victory Day Parade in Moscow last month, the Cuban leader Raul Castro stopped off in Rome to thank Pope Francis for his role in Cuba's rapprochement with the United States. "If the Pope continues this way," Castro said afterwards, "I will go back to praying and go back to the church - I am not joking." -BBC NEWS

The Lord bless you and keep you.
The Lord make His face to shine upon you and be gracious to you.
The Lord lift up His countenance upon you, and give you peace.

In the name of our same Lord and Savior Jesus Christ I wish you peace.


-CryptoLutheran

 

[Adrian Moir]

Wow.

Do I even bother to point out that I'm not even Roman Catholic? Or do I let you just keep going? Either way. Very...interesting.

God bless?

-CryptoLutheran[/QUOTE

Was there anything specific in regards to human equality that you disagree with?...Like other people having the inalienable right to it for example perhaps?...Because the right to speak comes from God who gives us free will, but, the will wasn't free because...It was bought with a price.
Which means that we are willing to to give examples...And not shy away from the challenges...Ok?