Is Gender Identity a modern social construct?

[2PhiloVoid]

Trans people have always existed. In some cultures there are excepted gender categories for them.

I wonder if this is purely a homosapiens phenomenon, or if it's found in other mammalian species as well? I'm going to have to look into it.

 

[AV1611VET]

I wonder if this is purely a homosapiens phenomenon, or if it's found in other mammalian species as well? I'm going to have to look into it.

What male superstar was actually a female?

And what female superstar was actually a male?

 

[Bradskii]

I wonder if this is purely a homosapiens phenomenon, or if it's found in other mammalian species as well? I'm going to have to look into it.

Gender is a reflection of how society sees each of us. And how we'd like to be seen. To treat someone as a different gender to their biological sex then you'd have to understand what it complies in the first place.

Would you expect an ape to do that? Let's face it, there are so many people in this forum that cannot grasp the concept...

 

[truthuprootsevil]

One could say that after the fall of Man was the birth of genetic abnormalities.

One could say as time goes on, humans multiply, which makes sin multiply, and genetic abnormalities multiply.

Much of Egyptians art had a feminine and look

These modern days has taken such matters to a different level. So I would say the term gender identity is a modern day concept of something which has existed since the fall of man, who's human factors have grown and growing. In the 1960s and years before there was no term gender identity.

Bible warns us what sin brings about and how it will get worse and worse.

 

[AV1611VET]

Bible warns us what sin brings about and how it will get worse and worse.

Like tares growing among the wheat!

 

[truthuprootsevil]

Like tares growing among the wheat!

Amen

 

[Larniavc]

also society in general disapproved those ideas,

Christian society did. Not the wider society.

 

[NBB]

Christian society did. Not the wider society.

Lies, at least in here, nobody talked about that, it was a fringe of some 'weird people' that nobody wanted near their families.
The idea didn't even crossed our minds, it was that alien to us. The number of trans teens and kids, were non existant,
you were born as boy or girl, and that it, this confusion is only bad, not everything new is better.

 

[Larniavc]

Lies, at least in here, nobody talked about that, it was a fringe of some 'weird people' that nobody wanted near their families.

But you live in a Christian area with a Christian society correct?

 

[AV1611VET]

But you live in a Christian area with a Christian society correct?

God Save the King

 

[NBB]

But you live in a Christian area with a Christian society correct?

No, is the most atheistic country.
I have read people that said it was the same in UK for example in the 80 and 90', that this always existed is not true, they are brainwashing the youth with this.

 

[Larniavc]

No, is the most atheistic country.

Uruguay is mostly Christian.

 

[Tinker Grey]

Uruguay is mostly Christian.

But not the right type of Christian

 

[sjastro]

I personally don`t see feminine traits in that statue, he`s just idealised for being overweight a little thanks to surplus food

Other statues show him with well defined breasts much unlike the appearance of "male boobs".
According to a previous post the Egyptologist Chris Nunan has a hypothesis on this.

Chris Naunton had a Q&A session on ancient Egypt.

 

[RileyG]

I wonder if this is purely a homosapiens phenomenon, or if it's found in other mammalian species as well? I'm going to have to look into it.

If we want to talk about gender expression, which is different, think about American men from the 1700s. They would be considered quite very "unmanly" today. BUT BUT BUT gender expression and gender as a concept aren't exactly the same thing.

Time's been a changing'

 

[stevevw]

There is some dispute over whether Akhenaten meant his god to be monotheistic or rather he was eliminating all other gods to claim some diety himself. It seems this was fairly common around this time with pharoahs claiming godlike status.

If Abraham had declared Yahweh are the one true God around 1800 BC maybe earlier and he had gathered tribes behind him. Then the proto Isrealites were already worshipping a monotheistic God. What Abraham declared about God being the only God would have been passed on to those who followed Abraham.

Especially by the time we have the proto Isrealites coming to Egypt bringing items and practices that are destinctively Hebrew. Such as a certain species of sheep that comes from the Levant for sacrifice to the one true God. Archeological discoveies show there was a destinct Hebrew culture while in Egypt probably before Akhenaten who reigns between 1353–1336 BC.

So it maybe that Akhenaten actually got the idea of a montheistic God from the proto Isrealites who the pharoahs would have been aware of their worship practices.

We see Moses appealing to the Emprorer pre Exodus to let his people go so they can go and worship their God in the desert. So I would say the pharoahs ruling would have known about the growing discontentment of these proto Isrealites God.

If Akhenaten had already known about Yahweh and perhaps seen His power amoung the proto Isrealites then he may have wanted to model his new god on this while still incorporating all the polygods which included the feminine gods into one mighty god encompassing all.

Especially considering that Tutankhamun who followed restored all the Egyptains gods after the proto Isrealites had escaped Egypt. Like Akhenaten god was a reaction against the Yahweh as trying to outdo the proto Islealites God.

From what I understand if the Exoduc happened aroun 1400BC and Akhenaten reign began in1353BC thats less than 50 years after all the mayham in Egypt from the God of Moses causing all the plagues including killing the pharoahs heir to the throne.

So Akhenaten would have been pretty impressed by the Isrealites God and wanted to emulate this and mix it into the Egyptian gods.