Is Creationism a Fairy Tale?

[USincognito]

What does that have to do with what you responded to??

It's a non-sequitur. It's part of his MO.

 

[driewerf]

Dear me.

I must have the wrong definition of "creationist/creationism" then, eh?

In terms of numbers and in terms of weighing upon decission makers (especially in matters of public education) America is more creationist than the UK.

 

[AV1611VET]

In terms of numbers and in terms of weighing upon decission makers (especially in matters of public education) America is more creationist than the UK.

Really? How many muslims in Parliament?

 

[driewerf]

Really? How many muslims in Parliament?

How many attempts to sneak in creationist talking points in the school curriculums?

 

[AV1611VET]

How many attempts to sneak in creationist talking points in the school curriculums?

I think I'll just take that point about creationism in America with a grain of salt, rather than chase goal posts.

 

[driewerf]

I think I'll just take that point about creationism in America with a grain of salt, rather than chase goal posts.

Swallow your salt very good, my friend...

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[nuttypiglet]

Nope.

In this scenario, common descent would not have been violated by the initial seeding of life (the earthly abiogenesis part, which incidentally does not happen when aliens are involved). It would have been violated by the subsequent interference.

We have plenty of geologic evidence for what really happened around that time period, and it wasn't just the dinosaurs who went extinct. Either way, this is either an unfalsifiable theory, or it is a falsifiable one that makes specific predictions about evidence that we should (or should not) see. It is that evidence that would then falsify common descent, not the initial seeding.

How and why will we be doing this? Using what technology? Expansion into space doesn't make any sense.

You keep saying it wouldn't have violated the initial seeding, but what I'm saying is it would violate evolution if this is how life was seeded. You say we have plenty of evidence how dinosaurs etc went extinct, but do we. One minute we are told it was a large meteor, then it was volcanic activity, then it was that they suffocated because the oxygen content of the air reduced. It seems to me nobody knows what happened. Whatever happened, it was pretty quick. Haven't fossils of dinosaurs been found where they were still eating? volcanic eruptions would certainly cause me to abandon a meal, so would a meteor strike. I also believe those those fossils were formed in sedimentary rock, so that creates an argument for both those ideas.

 

[AV1611VET]

Swallow your salt very good, my friend...

You too:

Islam has been present in the United Kingdom since its formation in 1707. Today it is the second largest religion in the country with results from the United Kingdom Census 2011 suggesting that by 2011 the total Muslim population had reached 2.7 million, 4.8% of the total population.

SOURCE

And note from the same source:

In 1961 there were 7 registered mosques -- now there are 1500.

 

[nuttypiglet]

What you or I believe means nothing.

Actually it means everything, it defines our lives. What would life be if we believe nothing at all?

 

[TLK Valentine]

Don't lay creationism down at our doorstep as "mainly an American phenomenon," when Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in Europe.

I wonder who is more "creationist," America or England?

American creationists are the same as Britian's Muslim population, then?

You have an interesting choice of allies, AV.

 

[Oncedeceived]

That's called freedom to worship any God you like, would that be allowed in the US?
Muslims still want to teach their children about evolution, would American creationists allow that?
Muslims want their children educate to the highest degree, do American creationists also want that?

Muslims also want Sharia Law.
Some Muslims practice genital Mutilation on their young girls.
Muslims believe it is ok to kill a woman for suspected adultery
Muslims believe that it is ok to marry girls as young as 12

But if they believe in Evolution they are so much better than American Creationists...well everyone has a right to their own opinion. :o

 

[nuttypiglet]

What we believe means everything to us but nothing in reality, we can believe the moon is made of green cheese or fairies live at the bottom of our garden and it means nothing in reality.
Only what is true and real matters in reality so the more true things we believe the better we are able to cope with reality, if we let our imaginations affect or reality we find ourselves in trouble.

LOL you don't get the point. What we believe IS our reality. If you believe nothing, then you have NO reality.

 

[nuttypiglet]

Muslims also want Sharia Law.
Some Muslims practice genital Mutilation on their young girls.
Muslims believe it is ok to kill a woman for suspected adultery
Muslims believe that it is ok to marry girls as young as 12

But if they believe in Evolution they are so much better than American Creationists...well everyone has a right to their own opinion. :o

In Pakistan there were some teenager girls shot and killed because they dared to go on protest, for equal rights in education. Still, the Koran basically says a female is nothing more than something on the bottom of a mans shoe.
I believe Jewish law states you can be married at 11 years old? but of course they no longer practice that.
Which God do Muslims believe in? none. There are prayers in the Koran to ask for the power of deceit. Who do Christians call the Deceiver? it is not God.

 

[Oncedeceived]

Some Muslims not all.

Really, I could be wrong but I doubt that there are very many that don't.

Most creationists think children conceived through rape should not be aborted.

That has got to be the most horrendous crime against humanity that I've ever heard! How dare creationists value life.

Some creationists think it's OK to kill someone for looking at their wives.

Where? Islamic creationists? However, it is not ok to kill anyone in the Christian faith.

American creationists have been doing that for years. Jerry Lee Lewis for one.

Source.

Most creationists deliberately keep their children dumb to keep them creationists.

Source.

Ask anyone who is not a creationists what is the first thing that comes to mind when they think 'creationist' and they will tell you what?

You tell me.

 

[AV1611VET]

American creationists are the same as Britian's Muslim population, then?

You have an interesting choice of allies, AV.

Um ... I'm sure there are Brits that are creationist as well.

 

[AV1611VET]

Ask anyone who is not a creationists what is the first thing that comes to mind when they think 'creationist' and they will tell you what?

That consol is back?

 

[Oncedeceived]

That consol is back?

Oh my, you might just be right.

 

[nuttypiglet]

Some Muslims not all.

Most creationists think children conceived through rape should not be aborted.

Some creationists think it's OK to kill someone for looking at their wives.

American creationists have been doing that for years. Jerry Lee Lewis for one.

Most creationists deliberately keep their children dumb to keep them creationists.
Ask anyone who is not a creationists what is the first thing that comes to mind when they think 'creationist' and they will tell you what?

Where do you get those statistics from?

 

[TLK Valentine]

LOL you don't get the point. What we believe IS our reality. If you believe nothing, then you have NO reality.

So all you want is the ability to dictate reality?

 

[Oncedeceived]

Where do you get those statistics from?

There are no sources, because it isn't true and he knows he can't back it up. IF this is a sock puppet of Consol he just stirs up animosity.