Is celebrating xmas a sin??

[gadar perets]

How do you “Know”? Are you the one remotely accessing my webcam?

There was only one sinless man that ever lived, Yeshua. Also, if you are keeping holy days by the Hillel pre-calculated calendar, then you are keeping them on the wrong days (a sin).

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Deuteronomy 27:26 Cursed be he that confirms not all the words of this law (Torah) to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.
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"And all the people shall say, Amen."

All the people agreed to follow the law, so it is not as hard as Christians make it out to be.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

I assume, by this post, that you disagree with the translation of Jeremiah 11:1-8? If so, please post the "correct" translation. If not, please explain what you meant.

What I meant was English has had some revisions since 1611.

 

[gadar perets]

You bring up an interesting case for the law .. I have more questions for you ... And I will ponder your thoughts on the matter ...thanks for your patience and replies ..peace ...

What does gadar Perets mean ?

repairer of the breach

 

[gadar perets]

"And all the people shall say, Amen."

All the people agreed to follow the law, so it is not as hard as Christians make it out to be.

Agreeing and doing are worlds apart.

 

[gadar perets]

What I meant was English has had some revisions since 1611.

OK. Show me a revision that changes the meaning of the translation I used.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

There was only one sinless man that ever lived, Yeshua. Also, if you are keeping holy days by the Hillel pre-calculated calendar, then you are keeping them on the wrong days (a sin).

What about these verses?



Hebrews 13:17English Standard Version (ESV)

17 Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.


Romans 13:2English Standard Version (ESV)

2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.


Titus 3:1English Standard Version (ESV)

3 Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work,

 

[Aryeh Jay]

OK. Show me a revision that changes the meaning of the translation I used.

When the source material was a completely different language, using an archaic version of the current language does not make it any more Holy, no matter how many Thes or thous thy havest in it.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Agreeing and doing are worlds apart.

Yes, of course, I agreed and do while some do not.

 

[gadar perets]

What about these verses?



Hebrews 13:17English Standard Version (ESV)

17 Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.


Romans 13:2English Standard Version (ESV)

2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.


Titus 3:1English Standard Version (ESV)

3 Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work,

Interesting that you would use New Covenant verses to justify your obedience to your leaders. As I understand it, we are to obey our leaders unless they will cause us to disobey our Elohim. YHWH said to keep the Feasts at specific times, but your leaders say, "No. We will go by our man-made postponement rules and cause the Feast days to fall when we want them to."

 

[gadar perets]

When the source material was a completely different language, using an archaic version of the current language does not make it any more Holy, no matter how many Thes or thous thy havest in it.

OK, does your source material in another language say, "Cursed be the man that obeys not the words of this covenant" or not?

 

[dfw69]

His judgement will still be carried out.

And many ex witches who repented will be saved

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Interesting that you would use New Covenant verses to justify your obedience to your leaders. As I understand it, we are to obey our leaders unless they will cause us to disobey our Elohim. YHWH said to keep the Feasts at specific times, but your leaders say, "No. We will go by our man-made postponement rules and cause the Feast days to fall when we want them to."

I posted verses that a CHRISTIAN would understand. These verses are not my justification.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

OK, does your source material in another language say, "Cursed be the man that obeys not the words of this covenant" or not?

Close enough to it.

 

[dfw69]

i wonder which one is worse, to be stoned to death or eternal fires? The former Covenant may have been cruel but I'm wondering if the NC is better in terms of the final punishment for sin. I know there's atonement for sins (Thanks to Mashiach's greatest sacrifice for mankind) but I honestly wonder if the NC is less stringent than the former one. Do you know holding a grudge is a sin? For the former covenant, sin seemed to be verbal or one could have evidence of someone having committed that sin but the NC both sins of the heart and the others are enough to convict someone of Judgement. I have never believed that being under NC would be less demanding than the former Covenant!

I think the punishment is always been the same in both covenants and for all men

 

[pat34lee]

Do you still wear them ?

I have tzitzit but I have never worn them yet.

 

[pat34lee]

When the source material was a completely different language, using an archaic version of the current language does not make it any more Holy, no matter how many Thes or thous thy havest in it.

Do you know that by the time of the 1611 KJV, they no longer used
the thee's and thou's, you's and ye's in normal speech? They went
into the KJV because they are more specific than 'you' singular and
'you' plural, and the translators wanted as close to a word-for-word
translation as they could get without losing the overall meaning.

 

[dfw69]

The Covenant was made with the Jews, not with you.

So Gentiles had no access nor could not convert to Judaism ?

All were Gentiles until circumcised to enter into covenant yes?

Why only the bloodline of Abraham was God favor to enter into covenant and the rest of the world not allowed? I thought it was Jews responsibility to convert men to God through entering the old covenant

It's an everlasting covenant with commandments to be performed for all generations . That is what is actually written in the Torah! To say otherwise is to call Gd a lier.

So you believe there will always be a temple one day and the old covenant exist forever? You don't believe the New Testament account of revelation which says there will be no more temple?

The New Covenant(a renewal of the old one), whenever it comes, will be between Gd and Jews. Again. It's actually written in the prophecy. There seems to be some kind of comprehension problem among the Christians. Some kind of textual blindness??

why does there need to be a renewal of the old covenant between Jews and God?... What happened that there needs to be a renewal? Is it for a new generation of Jews to keep because the last generation failed to keep? Just trying to comprehend your views

 

[dfw69]

i wonder which one is worse, to be stoned to death or eternal fires? The former Covenant may have been cruel but I'm wondering if the NC is better in terms of the final punishment for sin. I know there's atonement for sins (Thanks to Mashiach's greatest sacrifice for mankind) but I honestly wonder if the NC is less stringent than the former one. Do you know holding a grudge is a sin? For the former covenant, sin seemed to be verbal or one could have evidence of someone having committed that sin but the NC both sins of the heart and the others are enough to convict someone of Judgement. I have never believed that being under NC would be less demanding than the former Covenant!

You think the old covenant was better than the new in terms of punishment ?

 

[visionary]

What about these verses?



Hebrews 13:17English Standard Version (ESV) 17 Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.

Romans 13:2English Standard Version (ESV) 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

Titus 3:1English Standard Version (ESV) 3 Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work,

These are all excellent examples of the need for harmony, consistency, and trustworthy, righteous leaders who have the heart of God for the people who follow them.