Dorothy Mae
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I do not consider coming to know someone a definition.You cannot separate the definition from what it defines.
Then you've already losy yours.No, we cannot earn salvation but we can lose it by not being obedient to God.
False, they believe they make the right choice.Arminians don't believe that they save themselves in any way shape or form.
Not to be an ass, here, but there is no such thing as chance. Nevertheless, your reasoning is human, not Scriptural. God doesn't claim to be fair, but just. Fairness and mercy are not at all the same thing.
He is perfectly just to do whatever he chooses with his creation, making humans responsible for their own sinfulness, inherited from Adam even, planned by God to come to pass. But he is merciful to some, not putting their sins aside unpaid for, but by substitution of his Son in their place.
A certain farmer realized that he didn't hire enough men to clear his field before the day was out, so he went and hired some more, agreeing to pay them for the part-day the same amount as those he had hired for the full day. Later that day he again went and hired men under the same agreement. So why should those who hired on for the full day complain. They received what they had agreed on. --- So it is with the condemned. What those upon whom God shows mercy receive is no business of those whom God condemns. In fact, if it IS their business, then all the more condemnation on them for rejecting his gospel of salvation, and instead demanding more than they deserve.
What is the hope in your heart that you seem to think that by trapping us into accepting the definition of God by calvin and admiting we would hate such a being, if it were true? Why are you turning a theological discussion where you need to defend the hope that is within you into a dwelving into who we love? Please stay on the discussion and stop asking us about our hate or love of others.Could you love a God who was more evil than Satan?
Of course they do. The OP is your example
Scripture does not teach predestination as calvin taught it and you believe it. YOu will not find a verse that says you are predestined for heaven no matter what you do. So you are wrong on that point.I never said I wasn't concerned. I said that I'll forever be learning and take joy in that. And I said we have our limits. We only have been told in scripture on the existence of Predestination. We can imply in less explicit ways as well. But that's a far cry from thinking I know the "mechanics" enough to write a "systematic" view on the nature of free will and God's omniscience. This is vanity. It has nothing to do with disrespecting God. But simply knowing my place and that he hasn't revealed everything about this for now. There's a difference between acknowledging something, and saying you know the details of something.
You keep saying this, but continue to refuse to believe what the Scriptures teach on election. Your statements show you don't believe God elects according to His will and purpose. Then how does God elect?
That is a contradiction in terms. Evil cannot proceed from righteous judgment. THe judgment then becomes evil.If the evil was a result of his righteous judgement.
“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” Isaiah 45:7 (KJV 1900)That is a contradiction in terms. Evil cannot proceed from righteous judgment. THe judgment then becomes evil.
Is there anyone who can be elect without God first electing?
We ALWAYS choose, one way or the other. Why do you insist Calvin teaches we can't choose either way?
Does the reprobate DESIRE to repent?
Your question insinuates salvation through meritorious works. What sinner is perfectly righteous or can become perfectly righteous? Apart from Gods merciful grace in Christ even the elect of God are without hope and will die in their sin.Oh good your back!! Can you answer my question now? So then for those who are not elected God’s expectations are impossible to meet?
I agree that God doesn't have to elect anyone and He still would be righteous. But if God chooses to not elect someone because of a decision apart from them, then could it be said He is merciful (and just)?
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