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It would be interesting to know of their church affiliation.
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It would be interesting to know of their church affiliation.How often to you talk to atheists? I don't any of them who were never believers who hate God. The ones I know who hate GOd are fallen away believers. Those guys hate God more so than atheists who never were believers. Believers who have fallen away do tend to hate the god they rejected. That is true.
Huh? The theology of Calvinism describes deeds that are terribly evil and attribute them to god. Therefore the theology is wrong as he is not like that.How can you reject a God you love? You certainly reject Calvin's God.
So you hate God if Calvin was right?Huh? The theology of Calvinism describes deeds that are terribly evil and attribute them to god. Therefore the theology is wrong as he is not like that.
Different ones.It would be interesting to know of their church affiliation.
That is like asking if I would hate Jesus if there never was a son of Adam, Abel, and none of his teachings were correct but he lied. This will never happen. I know that I know this.So you hate God if Calvin was right?
It's not the same. It is how you define God and if you love him defined as such.That is like asking if I would hate Jesus if there never was a son of Adam, Abel, and none of his teachings were correct but he lied. This will never happen. I know that I know this.
Putting the cart before the horse is one thing, but please don't remove the horse altogether.No, God called Abraham and he obeyed. If he hadn't obeyed he still would have been called to be chosen. Many are called and some refuse. To receive the promise he had to obey. Being called is not the end of the story.
We think really differently. I do not define God and never have or at least not in many years. I seek to understand God and have been given more than I thought possible in this life along that line. But I was willing to pay the price for that knowledge. I love Him because I have come to know what he is like as does anyone who knows Him. I do not love Him for what he gives me including salvation. If God were to tell me that there is no afterlife and this is it, I would love Him just the same and serve Him just the same and nothing would change for me. That is the depth of the love I have for Him.It's not the same. It is how you define God and if you love him defined as such.
Well, when you write XYZ is just, you are very much declaring it just same as a judge. If it were above your pay grade, as you say, you would not make a declaration. You would say you do not know as it is above your ability/position to make a judgement. Instead you made a judgement, end of discussion.
This is another example of what I wrote today, that few if any seek to understand God. Very few. You do not want to understand him but are content not to do so. There are those who want to understand him. It is possible but it is expensive. Not pursuing knowing GOd is much cheaper.
Where did I do that? I know the whole of the story of Abraham. I edit nothing out. Tells one who wants to know a great deal about God HimselfPutting the cart before the horse is one thing, but please don't remove the horse altogether.
You cannot separate the definition from what it defines.We think really differently. I do not define God and never have or at least not in many years. I seek to understand God and have been given more than I thought possible in this life along that line. But I was willing to pay the price for that knowledge. I love Him because I have come to know what he is like as does anyone who knows Him. I do not love Him for what he gives me including salvation. If God were to tell me that there is no afterlife and this is it, I would love Him just the same and serve Him just the same and nothing would change for me. That is the depth of the love I have for Him.
I do hate the theology of Calvinism because it dishonors Him, it steals from my dear brethren the chance to know God. No calvinist that I have met understands God in the least. The theology steals that possiblity from them. And I am deeply sorry. My passion is to pass on the love to know and understand God. It is worthy of a passion of a lifetime.
Wow, I just said your words are in judgement and you get all bent out of shape here. I am not judging your soul but your words. Take care in what you write because those who read it know what you think.You don't even seek to understand me, a measely human, and yet you think you understand these higher depths of God. We've barely even exchanged a word, and you're already judging my soul. What did I even do to you to get such treatment?
understand that God is above me, and to fear him, and to be in awe.
No one in the BIble is in fear of God. They do walk in the fear of the Lord which is not the same thing.That is the beginning of wisdom, after all. The beginning of wisdom is not to pompously pretend I can reach the heights of God myself and ascertain things beyond mortals. This is the sin of the Babels and Nimrods of the world. And it is the original sin of Eve, enticed to claim gnosis beyond her means, falling prey to Lucifer's trap to be "like God" herself.
If that is all you want out of GOd, that I guess that is where you will stay.I understand that Jesus told me to simply trust and give thanks to the Father, for he is the Source. It is enough to know and rejoice. Countless Psalms teach us the same thing, and yet you excoriate me for it? I'm sorry that humbling oneself and rejoicing in God's greatness offends you so much. But I'm not going to change.
Not to be concerned with the future is correct. Not to be concerned with understanding Him is not correct. Jesus said eternal life is to know God, not to be saved.I understand that he told me to not overly concern myself with things out of my control - for example, with the future. To be like the birds of the air or flowers of the field - "Sufficient is the day unto the evil thereof."
If the evil was a result of his righteous judgement.Could you love a God who was more evil than Satan?
Why would someone not avvept Christ?And he tells us who he will have mercy on, anyone in the world who believes on his son, and the scripture leaves no one out..
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
So, tell me, who in the world was created to be left out, when "whosoever believeth" can be saved?
Like him or not, disagree with him or not, but that is NOT what he was saying. It is what people with a superficial knowledge of Calvin think his theology is suggesting.
Not to be concerned with understanding Him is not correct. Jesus said eternal life is to know God, not to be saved.
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