Is Calvinism a false denomination?

[Hammster]

That was an analogy.

He clarifies in more direct language. God, who controls everything, has mercy on all. All are disobedient and in need of God's mercy, and he provides it.

Gotta go. See you next time!

God controls everything? Now we are making progress.

 

[K Watt]

He wants men saved from every tongue tribe and nation, correct?

My bible says all men, so of course he does. Why put in that strange proviso?

 

[K Watt]

God controls everything? Now we are making progress.

Can God give man free will if he chooses to do so?

Can God let a man reap what he sows if he chooses to do so?

Can God reach out to all men with his grace if he chooses to do so?

Does the bible tell us he does all these things? YES

 

[Hammster]

My bible says all men, so of course he does. Why put in that strange proviso?

That’s an adequate definition that reflects scripture.

 

[Hammster]

Can God give man free will if he chooses to do so?

Can God let a man reap what he sows if he chooses to do so?

Can God reach out to all men with his grace if he chooses to do so?

Does the bible tell us he does all these things? YES

So God controls all things. The sovereignty of God is central to Reformed Theology.

 

[K Watt]

So God controls all things. The sovereignty of God is central to Reformed Theology.

Reformed Theology distorts God's nature. It turns him into a sadist.

Jesus wants us to love him and each other. He wants us to forgive those who trespass against us.

By his sovereign authority, God has reached out to all men with his grace and he desires that we all respond with obedience and love. If we don't, it is not his fault.

Calvinists believe God creates men with no opportunity for salvation.

 

[Hammster]

Reformed Theology distorts God's nature. It turns him into a sadist.

Jesus wants us to love him and each other. He wants us to forgive those who trespass against us.

By his sovereign authority, God has reached out to all men with his grace and he desires that we all respond with obedience and love. If we don't, it is not his fault.

Calvinists believe God creates men with no opportunity for salvation.

If all of this is true, why can’t you seem to give evidence for it? You make these bold statements, but then can’t back them up.

 

[K Watt]

If all of this is true, why can’t you seem to give evidence for it? You make these bold statements, but then can’t back them up.

How can you make such a blatantly false statement. I've given you multiple scriptures that make these very points. You ignore them.

Tell me which statement you disagree with and I'll provide multiple scriptures to support the point:

Jesus wants us to love him and each other. He wants us to forgive those who trespass against us.

By his sovereign authority, God has reached out to all men with his grace and he desires that we all respond with obedience and love. If we don't, it is not his fault.

Calvinists believe God creates men with no opportunity for salvation.

 

[Hammster]

How can you make such a blatantly false statement. I've given you multiple scriptures that make these very points. You ignore them.

You post verses without context or explanation. How is that an argument? Would you accept that from me as a rebuttal?

 

[Hammster]

Tell me which statement you disagree with and I'll provide multiple scriptures to support the point:

Calvinists believe God creates men with no opportunity for salvation.

Okay. Show me your support for this.

 

[K Watt]

Okay. Show me your support for this.

Unconditional Election:
God does not base His election on anything He sees in the individual. He chooses the elect according to the kind intention of His will (Eph. 1:4-8; Rom. 9:11) without any consideration of merit within the individual. Nor does God look into the future to see who would pick Him. Also, as some are elected into salvation, others are not.

 

[Hammster]

Unconditional Election:
God does not base His election on anything He sees in the individual. He chooses the elect according to the kind intention of His will (Eph. 1:4-8; Rom. 9:11) without any consideration of merit within the individual. Nor does God look into the future to see who would pick Him. Also, as some are elected into salvation, others are not.

Where are the multiple scriptures to support your claim? That’s what you said you’d supply.

 

[K Watt]

Where are the multiple scriptures to support your claim? That’s what you said you’d supply.

Scripture doesn't support Calvinism. Sorry.

If you want information about Calvinist doctrine you must go to Calvinist sources.

 

[Hammster]

Scripture doesn't support Calvinism. Sorry.

If you want information about Calvinist doctrine you must go to Calvinist sources.

Okay. You are walking it back. Got it.

 

[K Watt]

Okay. You are walking it back. Got it.

I admit that I can't prove Calvinist doctrine with scripture.

 

[Hammster]

I admit that I can't prove Calvinist doctrine with scripture.

That’s not what your offer is. Are you not able to understand your own post?

 

[K Watt]

That’s not what your offer is. Are you not able to understand your own post?

You understand my post perfectly well. I disproved Calvinism with scripture. Sorry.

 

[Hammster]

You understand my post perfectly well. I disproved Calvinism with scripture. Sorry.

You posted verses without context or explanation, and then a lie about Calvinism.

If you find that to be satisfactory, then there’s not much more I can say.

I just hope that if I ever make arguments against Catholicism, you’ll accept that level of argument.

 

[K Watt]

You posted verses without context or explanation, and then a lie about Calvinism.

If you find that to be satisfactory, then there’s not much more I can say.

I just hope that if I ever make arguments against Catholicism, you’ll accept that level of argument.

What was the lie?

 

[Hammster]

What was the lie?

This.

Calvinists believe God creates men with no opportunity for salvation.