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Is Belly Dancing bad?

Iloverock24

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I don't mean this to offend anyone, but this is how I see it. I'm not sure where Belly Dance comes from and that is the question I have in my mind. The reason people that have a Belly Dancing site and say that they don't know where it comes from is becuase that if they knew you knew from the start that it was bad, you wouldn't want to read their website about Belly Dancing. And sometimes people can convince you that something isn't bad when it is and now they look at you like your a bad person and you have no clue what you did wrong.

Most Middle East is bad, I'm not saying that everyone there is bad, there are a few people there who are good people, but think, it's only a few. And think about how big that few people are.

When you are talking about bad, people can convince you to think that Belly Dance isn't bad. This is most of the battle going on in my mind. I want to belly Dance, but when you ask me, how do I see it, I see it as

in one of the facts that people have in Middle East is that the Women were never able to sit with the Men, Women are one side of the house and Men are on the other side of the house. Women want to sit with the Men, so they do a dance to entertain each other , hoping to catch the guy's attention, so they can sit with the Men.

And who knows what happend next. I'm not sure what there intentions were on that.

I totally understand the positive side though, cuase I like to see it in the positive way. But then again, that maybe just the fact that I don't want to accept it as something bad. And again if it wasn't about seduction, they look like they are to entertain each other as if they were Bi or something no offence.

And most of the big moves were in forms of other Goddesses. Who they worshipped. In the Bible it says that we shouldn't sit with people and eat with people who worshipped other God's. Does that mean that if Iam belly dancing Iam worshipping other God's? That's another question that goes on in my mind.

Another thing I see is that, sure you can't go down the street and get beeped at, but most of the time , I wear clothes that cover a majority of my body and men still beep at me. Yeah of course. I understand that. But if you walk down the street and your half nakid down the street, I mean wearing shirts that show a part of you, esp your stomache, men are gonna beep at you no matter what. And someone may actually walk up to you and think that your trying to go out with someone. Think about it.


It's like Adam and Eve with the Apple, sure it's food and it's good like all other Food, but does that mean that Apple was ok for them? No it wasn't. I think that's why it was called The Forbidden Dance in other terms.


That's the same about Belly Dance, when you say that a man thinks the women was trying to get with him when they were Belly Dancing for him. And it's easy to make a man think that, you can't blame it on him for thinking that,I say I wouldn't Belly Dance if I made him think that and that is called teasing.

Thease are the battles I have about Belly Dancing in my mind. Not putting anyone down,this is just how I see it, and I'm not sure if I should Belly Dance or not.

And alot of Egyptians took advantage of the Christian people and abused them really bad, they hated the Christians and treated them like slaves. Most of the Belly Dancing I think started from Egypt but I'm not sure.

And I like Dancing so I'd hate to leave a certain form out, but if I'm not showing a Godly immage by Belly Dancing, I wouldn't Belly Dance.

Maybe I'm just falling under false guilt.
 
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Bottom line: If you feel that it is inappropriate, don't do it. If your conscience is troubled and your comments reflect what you think belly dancing is, then it's best for you not to. However, I believe you are mistaken on a number of points, and that in truth this is not something objectionable.

Most Middle East is bad, I'm not saying that everyone there is bad, there are a few people there who are good people, but think, it's only a few. And think about how big that few people are.

Um, no. You'd have to have a lot of reasons to back up such an accusation.

Women want to sit with the Men, so they do a dance to entertain each other , hoping to catch the guy's attention, so they can sit with the Men.

Where did you get this idea?

And who knows what happend next. I'm not sure what there intentions were on that.

If your intentions are bad when you dance, don't do it. However, this is not actually the traditional intention behind belly dancing.

And again if it wasn't about seduction, they look like they are to entertain each other as if they were Bi or something no offence.

I don't get turned on watching other women belly dance, and I don't do it to turn anyone else on, either. If this is an area which troubles you, then you could avoid temptation if you wish -- but again, that's not what the dance is about.

And most of the big moves were in forms of other Goddesses. Who they worshipped. In the Bible it says that we shouldn't sit with people and eat with people who worshipped other God's. Does that mean that if Iam belly dancing Iam worshipping other God's? That's another question that goes on in my mind.

People say this, but I've never seen it substantiated. From what I've read, it's more of a folk dance than anything else.

Another thing I see is that, sure you can't go down the street and get beeped at, but most of the time , I wear clothes that cover a majority of my body and men still beep at me. Yeah of course. I understand that. But if you walk down the street and your half nakid down the street, I mean wearing shirts that show a part of you, esp your stomache, men are gonna beep at you no matter what. And someone may actually walk up to you and think that your trying to go out with someone. Think about it.

Well, the half-naked costumes are an American invention from Hollywood, and it only spread to the Middle East when it became apparent that this is what American tourists expected to see. The dance was originally done in ordinary clothing -- and, as you must know, women's clothing in the Middle East is quite modest. There are a number of dancers who go back to the original type of attire, which is more modest than the modern American innovation.

It's like Adam and Eve with the Apple, sure it's food and it's good like all other Food, but does that mean that Apple was ok for them? No it wasn't. I think that's why it was called The Forbidden Dance in other terms.

Actually, it's the Lambada which is called "The Forbidden Dance." Not belly dancing.

That's the same about Belly Dance, when you say that a man thinks the women was trying to get with him when they were Belly Dancing for him. And it's easy to make a man think that, you can't blame it on him for thinking that,I say I wouldn't Belly Dance if I made him think that and that is called teasing.

Who says you have to dance for men? Who says you have to do it in a sexy way? You can dance alone, with other women, or in front of a mixed group, and dance in a way that is evocative, not provocative. You can set whatever limits seem appropriate to you. Honestly, I think turning it into a pseudo-stripper routine is a gross misrepresentation of the dance, so I very much dislike it when "belly dancers" cultivate cheap sexiness.

And alot of Egyptians took advantage of the Christian people and abused them really bad, they hated the Christians and treated them like slaves. Most of the Belly Dancing I think started from Egypt but I'm not sure.

Hmm? Are you referring to the enslavement of the Hebrew people in Old Testament times? I for one am willing to move past that. There are a number of other things we like about Egypt, after all.

And I like Dancing so I'd hate to leave a certain form out, but if I'm not showing a Godly immage by Belly Dancing, I wouldn't Belly Dance.

Maybe I'm just falling under false guilt.

Again, if you feel that you would be doing something wrong, then don't do it, because it would be wrong for you. But unless I see some evidence to back up what you've said, I can't believe that it's "bad" whenever anyone does it. (Romans 14)
 
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Thanks for letting me know that it is ok to Belly Dance and that I was wrong. Cuase I wanted to know where I was wrong or right. I had all thease thoughts about it and I couldn't really know which was fact and what wasn't. I think the Devil was trying to discourage me from doing something I love by implaminting false guilt in me. If fallen under false guilt, then you have alot to worry about for no reason at all. If worried then you fall under false guilt. Now I got an answer in my dream and on the forums. thanks. :)
 
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....I've seen some bellies that would make it a crime. :p
And that is the kind of attitude that sadly discourages many women from belly dance. When really it is an art form that has helped many individuals overcome self esteem issues. I began dancing while struggling with an eating disorder, and it has taught me to accept myself as I am.
 
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And that is the kind of attitude that sadly discourages many women from belly dance. When really it is an art form that has helped many individuals overcome self esteem issues.

...as this is a christian forum we are well aware of the preoccupation with 'self', attitudes aside. self is the root of most of our problems, and is usually the main culprit that get's us in trouble. Jesus teaches us to 'deny' ourselves and follow Him. this is the way to true freedom. our 'esteem' is based on the fact that we were bought with a price, that price being no less than the crucifixion of God's only Son, Jesus. the original question to this thread was whether belly dancing is bad. if it's to continue the promotion of 'self pride' then I'd say yes. but I'd rather like to think of it as a legitimate art form, and just that.
 
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...as this is a christian forum we are well aware of the preoccupation with 'self', attitudes aside. self is the root of most of our problems, and is usually the main culprit that get's us in trouble. Jesus teaches us to 'deny' ourselves and follow Him. this is the way to true freedom. our 'esteem' is based on the fact that we were bought with a price, that price being no less than the crucifixion of God's only Son, Jesus. the original question to this thread was whether belly dancing is bad. if it's to continue the promotion of 'self pride' then I'd say yes. but I'd rather like to think of it as a legitimate art form, and just that.
-claps- What you've just said, is a fine post that contributes to the topic of this thread; however, your previous post was nothing more than a crude statement that could have been interpreted as a fat joke.
 
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BELLY DANCING IS AWESOME! I feel that it is a way to praise God for our feminity! A true gift! Go to my page and check out one of Egypts greatest! My fav is Sohaila! You can find her www.youtube.com! Also in response to the negetivity, in Egypt and other parts of the Middle East, bellydance is considered an art and as the people are now more concious than ever about sexual modesty, the movement of the Classical Egyptian style is now very controlled, opposed to what you on my page, is now more about perfected and polished technique, like what you see Sohaila do! Belly buttons are also outlawed! So it really isn't about raunchyness! The Arabs and Greeks and other folks that have contributed to the art are doing what they can to make it professional. Unfortunatly some go overboard, but they still try. Also, the style of more folksy belly dancing, like you do at a wedding or a party, is not like the pros style! It's much more down to earth!
 
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Belly Dancing is truly about being a woman, artful expression, and most importantly, technique! To further prove this, many dancers don't just use their bodies. They use props, like zills, canes, swords, wings, tamborines, fans, and even snakes! Look at this dancer! Be sure to note her skill at working the cane, her percusive movements at the end as she skillfully keeps the drum in her drum solo, and no belly button! It's not considered proper! If a man is "seduced" by this simple display of skill an ability, then he is weird and has issues only God can help him with! I feel the whole, " Women are seducing men!" thing is just a sorry excuse for men who would rather blame women than control themselves. I can think of all the men that have hit on me and wolf-whistled and hollered and honked and every other thing that randy men do, and not once was I Belly Dancing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__SpoaTJsfo


For those concearned about modesty and too much jiggle-belly, try a beledi dress! Many dancers in the Middle East also where body stockings, as you see in the video on my page!


http://www.dahlal.com/default.aspx?n=1&c=1&s1=1153&s2=0


I truly hope that this helps! You know, Belly Dance also started when women would just dance for each other and was thought to ease the pains of pregnancy!
 
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my first inclination when i read this post was, of course belly-dancing is a sin.

after reading all the posts, i had decided, well maybe if it's for exercise and you don't do it for anyone else it might be okay. i actually bought into what the posts were saying about this NOT being a seductive dance.

but all you have to do is click on sohaila and see that belly dancing, even when fully covered, is an EXTREMELY provocative and seductive dance. i felt evil just watching it. really. not just from a sexual standpoint, but from a mystical mid-eastern standpoint. i could feel the evil in my spirit. that music is just ... i don't know... disheartening to my spirit somehow.

i looked up in my concordance all the places in God's word where it speaks of dance/dancing, and it speaks of dancing as celebratory and also as fit for worshiping God. but if i were to dance for my Lord, i would never move my body in such a provocative manner. would anyone dance sexy for the Lord? i hope not!

you want a little exercise, get some. you want to learn to move every muscle in your body in a provocative manner, that's really up to you. as for me, i find it to be sinful.

that's just my opinion and they way i interpret God's word.

may God guide us each according to His perfect will.:)
 
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my first inclination when i read this post was, of course belly-dancing is a sin.

after reading all the posts, i had decided, well maybe if it's for exercise and you don't do it for anyone else it might be okay. i actually bought into what the posts were saying about this NOT being a seductive dance.

but all you have to do is click on sohaila and see that belly dancing, even when fully covered, is an EXTREMELY provocative and seductive dance. i felt evil just watching it. really. not just from a sexual standpoint, but from a mystical mid-eastern standpoint. i could feel the evil in my spirit. that music is just ... i don't know... disheartening to my spirit somehow.

i looked up in my concordance all the places in God's word where it speaks of dance/dancing, and it speaks of dancing as celebratory and also as fit for worshiping God. but if i were to dance for my Lord, i would never move my body in such a provocative manner. would anyone dance sexy for the Lord? i hope not!

you want a little exercise, get some. you want to learn to move every muscle in your body in a provocative manner, that's really up to you. as for me, i find it to be sinful.

that's just my opinion and they way i interpret God's word.

may God guide us each according to His perfect will.:)
*shrugs* It is celebratory, but if that's how you feel that fine! When you dance, it's not always a "sexy feeling"! You are concetrating to hard on what you doing, but when you let go, it can be quite worshipful! Please explain what you meant by, "mystical mid-eastern standpoint" as I don't understand.
 
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hello DarkNLovely one:wave:

i apologize for sounding judgmental. Lord knows i have enough sin of my own to keep me busy! :doh:. and what is sin for one, may not be for another. i'm sure if the Holy Spirit convicted your heart that this was wrong you wouldn't do it. only God can be our judge.

what i meant by mystical mideastern standpoint are things like transcendental meditation, hinduism, so-called 'enlightened thinking,' buddhaism, new-age religion, etc. i think i would have been more correct to group this collectively as eastern mysticism. forgive me, i've not studied any of this indepth. i feel to do so could open a gateway for demonic activity, but with the limited knowledge i have of the above i know it does not agree with God or the Bible, which of course is what i base my walk with Christ on.

take care.

suzee:)
 
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hello DarkNLovely one:wave:

i apologize for sounding judgmental. Lord knows i have enough sin of my own to keep me busy! :doh:. and what is sin for one, may not be for another. i'm sure if the Holy Spirit convicted your heart that this was wrong you wouldn't do it. only God can be our judge.

what i meant by mystical mideastern standpoint are things like transcendental meditation, hinduism, so-called 'enlightened thinking,' buddhaism, new-age religion, etc. i think i would have been more correct to group this collectively as eastern mysticism. forgive me, i've not studied any of this indepth. i feel to do so could open a gateway for demonic activity, but with the limited knowledge i have of the above i know it does not agree with God or the Bible, which of course is what i base my walk with Christ on.

take care.

suzee:)
You didn't sound judgemental! I just didn't understand that one part but thanks for explaining. It is fine that you feel how you feel! Many women only dance for their husbends and not for others because they feel the same! Thanks dear! :wave:
 
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I really laughed at that "eastern mysticism" in middle eastern music... Do you know that in the Middle East you can go to jail for dancing to religious music? Middle Estern dance music has nothing to do with religion- most songs are about love! :)

But I agree 100% if you dont feel right about it- dont do it!

I feel right about it- one does not have to wear a provocative costume- there are plenty of options out there! And I would dance for other ppl with joy if I was good at it!For my belly dance is a celebration of joy of life and grace of God. :)
 
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