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If works aren't about accomplishment then God's asking us to do meaningless works
They are not a work what's so hard to understand a work would be a physical act. Like me saying I am going to heaven for feeding the poor. Please go back through all my post I have asked you to answer questions and explain your view of the Scripture.
So far you have only stated you believe love is a work along with hope and faith. And state you can earn your way to heaven.
Faith in Christ is the only way to heaven and its not a work. I be explained this in other post and your only answer to every thing I have said is faith is a work. As far as I can tell we are going nowhere. The Scripture is clear on this matter and I feel this is my stopping point. Go back to my other post with the questions and study it.
But telling people their salvatio has to do with their works is leading them astray. We are called to do good works. Not saved by them
I think there's a purpose to things under heaven. In this case Jesus actually says that he doesn't know those who didn't feed the hungry and clothe the naked.
It looks like the mistake you're making is to think that anyone holds that doing works of mercy, etc. is somehow wrong to do. That isn't the point with the works vs. faith debate. The issue is only about what such works accomplish.
Absolutely . Also , we cannot do what He asks unless He *does* ask and we believe He is asking us . That is not about works but about faith .Surely we do what God asks because he asks them of us rather than that they accomplish anything.
Too bad about the women , huh ?But surely he has told you oh man of God what is good, what he requires of you, but to act justly, love mercy and walk humbly with him.
Shows you how nearsighted translators are . If it means "person" no matter the gender , it was their job to translate it as such . Given that people look at the Scriptures as Law ( and translators know they do ) , it needs to be very clear .I dunno maybe the original Hebrew is less constrained in its gender, I wouldn't be surprised if the word translated man is Adam, in which case it is as general as they come
Noblerare said:Hi guys, I am a Christian but I have a question about whether or not belief in God is enough to be saved.
Here are some verses that show that belief = salvation.
If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. As Scripture says, "Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame." -Romans 10:9-11
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. -John 3:16
The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas. He then brought them out and asked, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be savedyou and your household." -Acts 16:29-31You guys get the point. And this sounds great. But, what about this?
You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe thatand shudder. -James 2:19The way I understand it, "belief" in Jesus Christ isn't enough to be saved. True belief in Jesus will result in fruit that is evident by a lifestyle change, a heart change: that you want nothing else to do with the world that satisfies the needs of the flesh but really only care about satisfying God and being led by the Spirit.
However, if this is the case, what do we make of the first 3 verses I posted? They clearly seem to state that belief is all that is needed for salvation.
Can somebody please shine a light on this issue for me? I think how we understand salvation really changes how we live our lives and especially how we evangelize to others (in other words, if belief isn't enough to be saved, we shouldn't be spreading that as a final end).
Thank you for your help.
I think the issue is accomplishing what.If works aren't about accomplishment then God's asking us to do meaningless works
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