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What is most important to understand is that Jesus sacrificed himself freely out of love for us and that alone is our redemption. It is like the brass snake lifted up by Moses in the desert. Look to the cross and be saved. See that the head of the snake has been crushed under his heel, just as prophesied a the time that sin entered into the world.
To say that we are saved through the good that we do is the message of Judaism. It is a false gospel for Christians, for it puts the yoke that the Jews of old could not carry and places it back on us.
Those who look to the cross and see the conquest of sin by the Risen Christ enter into a relationship with Christ who pours his Spirit upon us.
The works of the indwelling Spirit continue in the salvation of the world. The grace of the Spirit is a free gift for all who look to the cross and see.
I used scripture... do you believe that all of the bible is true... ? do you believe that scripture does not contradicts itself...? if so, then you can't ignore parts of it... and you cannot interpret it to contradict other scriptures... you can argue an alternative interpretation... but you do have to deal with the scriptures that contradict your argument... otherwise you're interpretation is wrong.
no faith is faith love is love and hope is hope. All internal feelings but you can put them to work big difference . Works are works. Giving examples of Christ doing good works does not mean or say you are saved by works.
To say that we are saved through the good that we do is the message of Judaism. It is a false gospel for Christians, for it puts the yoke that the Jews of old could not even carry and places it right back on us. It is an impossible gospel.
Impossible that is, for all but Jesus.
I'm truly sorry you feel that way... but please don't ignore scriptures that contradict your interpretation... every word of God's word is important... and we can believe it all... God bless you!!!now you're being manipulative . the bible can say anything you want it to . i don't know why you're thinking you have some god given authority to lord it over me . but you are greatly mistaken . continue on as you are . and i will place you on my ignore list .
yes it is true we are new creatures. The old man is gone. I never cared about doing anything good until I was saved. Same with millions of drug dealers. Murders rapist prostitutes and etc that accepted Christ once again you did not answer the questions I asked earlier. I will repository then again.
NO!Can I ask you a simple question: Do we not attain eternal life by loving the LORD and our neighbours?
Yes or No?
I'm truly sorry you feel that way... but please don't ignore scriptures that contradict your interpretation... every word of God's word is important... and we can believe it all... God bless you!!!
Reposted for you. And you are saying you can earn God's grace? Please come up with Scripture that is in context and you studied to answer each question. If you can't beside some half excuse and 1verse that has been explained already then to me this thread is dead.
And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possessionto the praise of his glory Ephesians 1:13-14
no there not... works don't save... that does not mean that our Father cannot command us to do them, and if we don't obey Him, He will discipline us... as the bible say's He disciplines His children ...These verses then are at odds with the verses calling us to do good works.
We don't make ourselves a new person... that is the work of God and the gift of God...No one has said you earn God's grace.
God offers his grace, you accept or reject it. But to properly accept it you need to be a new person. And you need to work at this. Like an athlete who has to train to stay fit. Otherwise you're not really committed.
We don't make ourselves a new person... that is the work of God and the gift of God...
To be honest, I'm not sure I follow you. Where have I stated that faith is love?
By the way, tell me something: what "works" did Jesus Christ do?
I have testimony weightier than that of John. For the very work that the Father has given me to finish, and which I am doing, testifies that the Father has sent me. John 5:36
Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father. John 10:37-38
PS. Please do not make the mistake of reducing love, faith and hope to mere internal feelings. They are from God.
To be honest, I'm not sure I follow you. Where have I stated that faith is love?
By the way, tell me something: what "works" did Jesus Christ do?
I have testimony weightier than that of John. For the very work that the Father has given me to finish, and which I am doing, testifies that the Father has sent me. John 5:36
Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father. John 10:37-38
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