Is being Wiccan moral?

[SquareC]

Yes, thank you very much. I have a few more questions, one of which I ask because it is based on respect. As I had posted, I am a Unitarian Universalist. I am quite happy to be a Christian, a Jew, and many most faiths whom believe in one God, morals, laws or respect for God and for people, care, loving brotherhood, a respect for others, a belief that we are all born with a dignity, and that we should respect and celebrate each others dignity.
We should respect those whom we do not know to have acted in evil.
My point, Square C, is that inasmuch as I do not know you as a person, and know little about your faith, I want to respect you. Here then is my question.
Is there some phrase that you would like me to use in speaking to you? By that, I mean, you sign "Blessed Be!". Should I preface, or in some way address you that is, because of your faith, respectful? Is it proper to call you, "a Wiccan", or "Wiccan"? In your faith, from what I have been able to understand, there is both a male and a female God. Is this meant that God, in your faith, may be either a male a female, or without gonads, or rather, in your faith are there two Gods? Is your faith monotheistic? (That is, should it be so that in your faith that there is both a male and a female God, is this
view, in your faith, still monothiesm?)

Blissman, thank you for the thoughtful questions! There is no specific address to a Wiccan (and either is correct, I am both "a Wiccan" and "Wiccan") There are traditional greeting and parting phrases, Merry Meet is the traditional greeting, Merry Part the parting phrase, and many add the wish "Merry Meet again" as well. This is not by any means obligatory, even among Wiccans! Blessed Be is exactly as it sounds, a wish of blessings upon the person addressed. It too is a traditional phrase. Mylinkay's post answers the monotheism question much as I would have (or perhaps, even better) Wicca is a monotheistic religion, with Deity divided into "aspects" for better personal relation and understanding on the part of us mortals. I, personally, do not go beyond the Lady and the Lord, in their triune aspects, I do not ascribe to "particular" names of divinity. This is just me, though!

Mylinkay, thank you for that answer, it was very thoughtful and thorough. I don't get online as much as I could wish, and don't get to answer as quickly as I would like! Blessed Be!

 

[Blissman]

Thank you

 

[SquareC]

You are quite welcome! Any time!

 

[Maria Mante]

I think that being Wiccan is perfectly moral. Even in a biblical sense really.

Sure, The Bible says that Witchraft is wrong. But if you read about the context they seem to speak in, I believe they are talking about worshipping the Devil. And the little I know about Wicca, They do nothin of the sort!

So yes, I think that being a Wiccan is moral.

 

[TheOriginalWhitehorse]

I think that being Wiccan is perfectly moral. Even in a biblical sense really.

Sure, The Bible says that Witchraft is wrong. But if you read about the context they seem to speak in, I believe they are talking about worshipping the Devil. And the little I know about Wicca, They do nothin of the sort!

So yes, I think that being a Wiccan is moral.

Er, I'd reread the scripture again. God alone is God; there is no other, and He never yields His glory to another. Ever. There is no other context.

 

[nami]

Er, I'd reread the scripture again. God alone is God; there is no other, and He never yields His glory to another. Ever. There is no other context.

I would like to understand what you mean by "no other context."
There was 'intention' behind God's Word. The interpretation of it is one of the reasons there are so many divisions of churches,ect.
Also, the term 'witch' has been associated in many ways in many different cultures under completely different terms/understandings.The origins of witchcraft changed over thousands of years,being reinvented by different cultures,therein applying different connotations. To say that you know 'exactly' what Jesus meant,I think, can only be better defined in context to God's Word in it's entirety.
I am interested in why some believers in the Bible interpret the Bible the way they do. Any comments are much appreciated.

 

[TheOriginalWhitehorse]

Exodus 20 :1-17* *

20:1And God spake all these words, saying,

20:2I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

20:3Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

20:4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

20:5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

20:7Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

20:8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

20:9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

20:10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

20:11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

20:12Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

20:13Thou shalt not kill.

20:14Thou shalt not commit adultery.

20:15Thou shalt not steal.

20:16Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

20:17Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ***, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

The question is not whether people will contort the scriptures to suit themselves. It's when people say that their "interpretations" are God's word that is the issue.

 

[SquareC]

There is also the teeeny issue of translation errors, which are rampant in many versions of the Bible.

 

[TheOriginalWhitehorse]

There is also the teeeny issue of translation errors, which are rampant in many versions of the Bible.

For most people, it's all about making the Bible read the way they want it to read. The true child of God will get the truth. S/he will choose excellent translations, consult the original Greek and Hebrew, etc.

The problem isn't that people can't figure out what the truth is as the Holy Spirit enlightens them. It's that most people don't go to the Bible with the intent of submitting to God. They go to it to get rid of any barriers to what they truly want to do.

(And that's why the road to life is so narrow.)

 

[nami]

Exodus 20 :1-17* *

20:1And God spake all these words, saying,

20:2I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

20:3Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

20:4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

20:5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

20:6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

20:7Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

20:8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

20:9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

20:10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

20:11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

20:12Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

20:13Thou shalt not kill.

20:14Thou shalt not commit adultery.

20:15Thou shalt not steal.

20:16Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

20:17Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ***, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

The question is not whether people will contort the scriptures to suit themselves. It's when people say that their "interpretations" are God's word that is the issue.

I completely understand, and agree that it is abhorent to place my opinion of what God intended to say over what other Christians believe it is saying,explicitly. I however, do know that there are 'other' people (Christians) who would agree that due to the issue of separation of churches (due to this very issue,) is making a statement that the interpretation of the Bible is not clear cut across the board. I do think myself, that there was only one intention that God intended to convey to Mankind in His Word. However, who do you believe? Even the heads of some major churches are changing their own views on some even greater issues. Some I myself find hard to believe they feel justified in doing so. I think it would be obvious to anyone, that when anyone engages in conversation, not to mention Divine Revelation, that there is a concise meaning/direction behind the intended words/revelation,ect. What I am not understanding however,is just what that understanding/intention 'is'. 'How' someone thinks, their background,ect., can make a great difference in the understanding of anything. How then, does one know 'the truth' absolutely?

 

[nami]

For most people, it's all about making the Bible read the way they want it to read. The true child of God will get the truth. S/he will choose excellent translations, consult the original Greek and Hebrew, etc.

The problem isn't that people can't figure out what the truth is as the Holy Spirit enlightens them. It's that most people don't go to the Bible with the intent of submitting to God. They go to it to get rid of any barriers to what they truly want to do.

(And that's why the road to life is so narrow.)

How is it possible then that many people, who have an open heart, pray for guidance, find something some people would not accept? To say that those who are interpreting/understanding the meaning of something differently are not children of God is disturbing to me. It says those who believe in something,exactly, the same, are the chosen. I am open-minded enough to even accept that could be the reality. However, why is some other person's idea of what something means more correct,valuable,or 'right' than mine? Who are you to judge what is correct? Why would someone listen to what you understand over someone else? How is it that there is an established 'right' way of understanding something (for one group) and to others,something else slightly different? Does that mean some are 'true' Christians and others are not the 'true' children of God then? How do you feel justified to say that?Essentially, you are saying other people who believe in The Bible are not only incorrect, but are not even knowing truth,or God's chosen to be saved?

 

[Natro]

Considering that the basic requirment of Wicca is do no harm, and as a Wiccan you are supposed to be kind, would it be moral?

Religions don't matter when it comes to morality. Its the current perspective of society at the time and how the person acts in acordence. And right now I would say they are in a pretty good light.

 

[Myah]

Oh, another thought. Those spells that call for the blood of animals, like a white dove (for love bindings if I remember correctly) how do you get that without harming a living creature?

I think you are perhaps thinking of an ink that is called Dove's Blood, but it isn't actually blood, just an ink. (there is also an ink called Dragon's blood) It is used for love spells, but no Wiccan that I know of would use a love spell on anyone. That is attempting to bend someone's will, and quite frankly I would see that as being harmful. HOWEVER, there are some witches (Wiccan and witchcraft are not necessarily the same) who use a love "spell" (I think a writeen prayer would be a better description than a spell in this respect) to bring a loved one and themselves closer, or to bring a better understanding with one another.

I don’t know what you are reading but I am positive it has NOTHING to do with Wicca. I have read extensively books on Wicca and NeoPaganism in general and have NEVER run across any magical work calling for the sacrifice of an animal. About half the Wiccan’s I know are vegetarian because they feel it is immoral to kill an animal for food.

Even though I am Wiccan..I don't feel it's immoral to eat meat at all. Besides, it's dead by the time it gets to me, and if I don't get that juicy t-bone from the grocery store, someone else who isn't as appreciative of steak with Heinz 57 sauce might!

 

[Godschild]

My friend says that getting involved w/Wicca is opening oneself up to demonic/satanic forces, and that it's not good. (I know I'm going to hear the whole "Well wiccans don't believe in Satan, so that's not true/so how can wicca be a demonic force?") So I'm ready for that.

 

[Myah]

My friend says that getting involved w/Wicca is opening oneself up to demonic/satanic forces, and that it's not good. (I know I'm going to hear the whole "Well wiccans don't believe in Satan, so that's not true/so how can wicca be a demonic force?") So I'm ready for that.

Alot of people think that, it's a common belief. It's possible that they fear what they do not understand or will not try to understand. And no..we don't believe in satan.

 

[GOD4ME]

No wicca would not be moral because it emphasizes power over other human beings. Evil is the basis of control. Lucifer wanted power instead of love that is why he became evil. Putting curses on somone means you hate that person and wish to make his life a living hell. This is hate and hate is evil and imoral.

 

[armed2010]

No wicca would not be moral because it emphasizes power over other human beings. Evil is the basis of control. Lucifer wanted power instead of love that is why he became evil. Putting curses on somone means you hate that person and wish to make his life a living hell. This is hate and hate is evil and imoral.

Do you even know what wicca is?

 

[GOD4ME]

Yes do you????

 

[Myah]

No wicca would not be moral because it emphasizes power over other human beings. Evil is the basis of control. Lucifer wanted power instead of love that is why he became evil. Putting curses on somone means you hate that person and wish to make his life a living hell. This is hate and hate is evil and imoral.

It does not sound to me like you have done any research at all on Wicca. Wicca is not about power over others. We think that is wrong, just as you do. We don't put curses on others, because such an action is harmful. The Wiccan Rede states " An it harm none, do what thou wilt." Also, Wiccans believe in the Three Fold Law, which means that anything you give out, you recieve times three.
Maybe you should do some research and maybe you would understand our beliefs a little more
Blessed be,
Myah

 

[GOD4ME]

Well I talked to a wiccen who said he loved the power over other people. This is imoral !!!!! Why are you on a Christian site? Is it because you wan't to talk to Christian?????