Is being rude a sin?

[Bible Highlighter]

No, Being rude is not a sin. It is a fruit falling from a Tree baring such fruit. I would not call rudeness a good fruit

"Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit."

"And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire."

For this reason, we should make note of the fruit we bear.....

Chapter and verse please.

 

[Archivist]

I never said that the English words of today are the same as they were in the 1600's English. I have been fully aware of this fact for a long time now.

Looking at the origin of the word "rude," it means:

"ill-mannered, uncultured; uneducated, uncultured" is from mid-14c."​

Source:
rude | Origin and meaning of rude by Online Etymology Dictionary

A person who is ill mannered like a person driving a crazy loud monster truck, or a barbarian who eats an oversized large chicken wing in the most disgusting way is being insensitive to the feelings of others. Ill mannered means bad behavior out of a lack of love (Which is the same thing as what I am talking about). These folks are being rude in a bad way.

Try a better source. This is the Oxford English Dictionary's definition for "Rude."

a. Uneducated or unsophisticated people; common people. Now rare.

a1350 in G. L. Brook Harley Lyrics (1968) 36 (MED) Such tiding mei tide..of brudes bryht..In rude were roo wiþ hem roune.
a1425 (▸?a1400) G. Chaucer Romaunt Rose (Hunterian) (1891) l. 2268 Of shone and bootes..Loke..thou haue a paire And that they sitte so fetisly That these ruyde [Fr. vilain] may vttirly Merveyle..How they come an or off ageyn.
a1500 (▸a1475) G. Ashby Dicta Philosophorum l. 534 in Poems (1899) 66 If a kynge wol be wytty and eke wise, He muste abstene from Rude & Unkunnyng..To th[e] moost wytty & wisest drawyng.
?1521 A. Barclay Bk. Codrus & Mynalcas sig. D His sight enfourmeth, the rude and ignorant.
1568 T. Howell Arbor of Amitie f. 18 Unto the weake shee was a strength,..Unto the rude, a lamp of light.
1616 T. Beard Retractiue from Romish Relig. x. 351 The Cattell and the Sheepe, that is, the rude and the ignorant doe drinke and refresh themselues.
1655 T. Stanley Hist. Philos. I. iii. 111 Whatsoever they have, to the good seems sufficient, to the rude too little.
1768 P. Pott Gen. Remarks Fractures & Dislocations 12 Can the method itself..be done properly by the rude, the inattentive, and the ignorant?
1787 Microcosm 16 July 405 The rude and the ignorant, in their advancement to an happier cultivation, may be permitted to indulge themselves with an occasional page of Addison.
1849 G. L. Craik et al. Pict. Hist. Eng. V. i. vi. 654/1 It works wild work amongst the rude and ignorant.
1892 W. Pater Wks. (1901) VIII. 228 Fritillaries.., Snake's heads, the rude call them, for their shape.
1905 Truth 2 Sept. 1 It isn't always plain when coves who drink are screwed, Though nine or ten would make them ‘shikkered’ in the lingo of the rude.

b. Impolite or discourteous people as a class.

1845 Southern Literary Messenger Jan. 57/2 Courtesy is the only way to deal with the courteous, and the best way to deal with the rude.
1883 M. Dix Mem. J. A. Dix II. ix. 27 The rude were taught good-manners.
1920 E. G. Craig Theatre—Advancing Foreword p. xlvii ‘The Polite’ are often given to saying the rudest things behind one's back. The Rude are sometimes given to speaking better of us in private than one would imagine.
1993 Guardian 29 Oct. i. 2/1 The rude, the officious, the racist, the lazy and the lead-swinging will no long be able to rely on the generous salary.

 

[RaymondG]

Chapter and verse please.

Matthew 7:17
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

Luke 3:9
And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Galatians 5:22-23
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Try a better source. This is the Oxford English Dictionary's definition for "Rude."

a. Uneducated or unsophisticated people; common people. Now rare.

a1350 in G. L. Brook Harley Lyrics (1968) 36 (MED) Such tiding mei tide..of brudes bryht..In rude were roo wiþ hem roune.
a1425 (▸?a1400) G. Chaucer Romaunt Rose (Hunterian) (1891) l. 2268 Of shone and bootes..Loke..thou haue a paire And that they sitte so fetisly That these ruyde [Fr. vilain] may vttirly Merveyle..How they come an or off ageyn.
a1500 (▸a1475) G. Ashby Dicta Philosophorum l. 534 in Poems (1899) 66 If a kynge wol be wytty and eke wise, He muste abstene from Rude & Unkunnyng..To th[e] moost wytty & wisest drawyng.
?1521 A. Barclay Bk. Codrus & Mynalcas sig. D His sight enfourmeth, the rude and ignorant.
1568 T. Howell Arbor of Amitie f. 18 Unto the weake shee was a strength,..Unto the rude, a lamp of light.
1616 T. Beard Retractiue from Romish Relig. x. 351 The Cattell and the Sheepe, that is, the rude and the ignorant doe drinke and refresh themselues.
1655 T. Stanley Hist. Philos. I. iii. 111 Whatsoever they have, to the good seems sufficient, to the rude too little.
1768 P. Pott Gen. Remarks Fractures & Dislocations 12 Can the method itself..be done properly by the rude, the inattentive, and the ignorant?
1787 Microcosm 16 July 405 The rude and the ignorant, in their advancement to an happier cultivation, may be permitted to indulge themselves with an occasional page of Addison.
1849 G. L. Craik et al. Pict. Hist. Eng. V. i. vi. 654/1 It works wild work amongst the rude and ignorant.
1892 W. Pater Wks. (1901) VIII. 228 Fritillaries.., Snake's heads, the rude call them, for their shape.
1905 Truth 2 Sept. 1 It isn't always plain when coves who drink are screwed, Though nine or ten would make them ‘shikkered’ in the lingo of the rude.

b. Impolite or discourteous people as a class.

1845 Southern Literary Messenger Jan. 57/2 Courtesy is the only way to deal with the courteous, and the best way to deal with the rude.
1883 M. Dix Mem. J. A. Dix II. ix. 27 The rude were taught good-manners.
1920 E. G. Craig Theatre—Advancing Foreword p. xlvii ‘The Polite’ are often given to saying the rudest things behind one's back. The Rude are sometimes given to speaking better of us in private than one would imagine.
1993 Guardian 29 Oct. i. 2/1 The rude, the officious, the racist, the lazy and the lead-swinging will no long be able to rely on the generous salary.

Option b. fits what I just said. To be impolite is to be ill mannered or rude. Same thing.

 

[Archivist]

Option b. fits what I just said. To be impolite is to be ill mannered or rude. Same thing.

You do understand how OED works, don't you? Note the first recorded date for that usage--1845.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Matthew 7:17
Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

Luke 3:9
And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: every tree therefore which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Galatians 5:22-23
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Uh yeah, that doesn't really line up with what you said about how being rude is not a sin and it is merely an evil fruit. Evil fruit is the result of a corrupt tree according to Jesus (Matthew 7:17). Jesus says to those believers who do good works in his name to depart from Him because they worked iniquity (i.e. sin, or evil fruit).

I see "rude" behavior being described in the beginning of James 2. The brethren James was writing to showed a lack of love towards the poor brethren and showed favor to the rich brethren instead. Their motives were not pure and good.

They were breaking the Royal Law of love in "loving one's neighbor."
Jesus taught that to love one's neighbor is a part of eternal life (Matthew 19:17-19, and Luke 10:25-37).

 

[Bible Highlighter]

You do understand how OED works, don't you? Note the first recorded date for that usage--1845.

I know the English language just fine. What I said fits. Your rejection of my definition that your average person will understand does not undo what I have stated. Words have synonyms to them. They are related words that say the same thing. Your failure to understand the synonym I pointed out does not undo its truthfulness. Not going to keep going back and forth with you on this (if you want to continue to debate this).

 

[RaymondG]

Uh yeah, that doesn't really line up with what you said about how being rude is not a sin and it is merely an evil fruit. Evil fruit is the result of a corrupt tree according to Jesus (Matthew 7:17). Jesus says to those believers who do good works in his name to depart from Him because they worked iniquity (i.e. sin, or evil fruit).

I see "rude" behavior being described in the beginning of James 2. The brethren James was writing to showed a lack of love towards the poor brethren and showed favor to the rich brethren instead. Their motives were not pure and good.

They were breaking the Royal Law of love in "loving one's neighbor."
Jesus taught that to love one's neighbor is a part of eternal life (Matthew 19:17-19, and Luke 10:25-37).

Maybe we define sin differently. Either way, If the tree is rotten, it will bear rotten fruit and must be hewn down. It matters little if the fruit bore, makes it on my list of sins.

 

[Steve97]

Our culture may consider it "rude" if you don't agree with their worldview. Some people believe I am "rude" because I don't embrace their convictions and sometimes come across as "different". As Christians, we are to follow the teachings of Christ which includes being polite and respectful.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Maybe we define sin differently. Either way, If the tree is rotten, it will bear rotten fruit and must be hewn down. It matters little if the fruit bore, makes it on my list of sins.

Jesus said you will know a tree by its fruit. So the tree has to produce good fruit and not evil or bad fruit.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Our culture may consider it "rude" if you don't agree with their worldview. Some people believe I am "rude" because I don't embrace their convictions and sometimes come across as "different". As Christians, we are to follow the teachings of Christ which includes being polite and respectful.

I agree. I think there is a worldly version of being rude (Which is not true), and there is a Godly defined version of rude that God does not want us to partake in (Like with showing respect of persons in the beginning of James 2).

 

[RaymondG]

Jesus said you will know a tree by its fruit. So the tree has to produce good fruit and not evil or bad fruit.

Yes this is what I was trying to say.. A good tree will not bare rude fruit.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Yes this is what I was trying to say.. A good tree will not bare rude fruit.

I am not sure we agree on how that manifests itself or looks.

 

[RaymondG]

I am not sure we agree on how that manifests itself or looks.

Correct, I do not believe we will agree on this.

 

[Ricky M]

Most definitely not.
It never crossed my mind that such a thing was ever rude to begin with.
Why would you assume that is what I thought?

I didn't assume that's what you were thinking, I just wondered what you would think about it.

 

[SkyWriting]

Is being rude a sin?

We can only judge ourselves and our own situation are not qualified to judge others.
Naturally, rude people are usually blissfully unaware of themselves.
Narcissism can be the most consistent display of rudeness.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

We can only judge ourselves and our own situation are not qualified to judge others.
Naturally, rude people are usually blissfully unaware of themselves.
Narcissism can be the most consistent display of rudeness.

Actually, Jesus said we can judge righteously (John 7:24).

 

[hedrick]

It's a bit hard to define rudeness. It's surely not rude to disagree with someone. It is rude to do Westboro-style demonstrations outside funerals. Somewhere in the middle is the line between civilized and uncivilized ways to disagree.

I suppose there are times when there's cause to be uncivilized about it, but it ought to be only in specific, unusual cases. But the term "rude" isn't typically used for that kind of thing, but for careless behavior that ignores others' feelings.

 

[SkyWriting]

Actually, Jesus said we can judge righteously (John 7:24).

Now look up "judge righteously" and you'll see that means judge the poor equally as the rich when you are a sitting judge in secular court. A long ways from lay people Bible-whacking those sinners.

That one passage is included among other verses that negate your misreading.

What Does the Bible Say About Right Judgment?

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Now look up "judge righteously" and you'll see that means judge the poor equally as the rich when you are a sitting judge in secular court.

Nope. Paul says do not have fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them (Ephesians 5:11).