Is Autism A Gift From God?

[Sabertooth]

ASD has nothing to do with the immune system.

Gifteds & autistics are born with oversensitive immune systems. You're looking at this backwards. Giftedness & autism are hereditary, but the extra co-morbid conditions are not. Their immune system issues didn't cause the autism. They are a trait of a person who already has autism [ASD1].

https://www.focusforhealth.org/autism-allergies-immune-system-full/

 

[GodLovesCats]

I was not loo.king at it backwards. ASD is a neurological disability, so it makes no sense that the immune system would be involved. Nothing I read about ASD indicates there is an immune system link except the stupid doctor's vaccine hoax.

 

[Sabertooth]

ASD is a neurological disability,...

That neurological variation [not disability] impacts one's immune system. The immune system doesn't create autism; it is a trait of autism.

Certain vaccines create problems for people who are already autistic when they are born.

Are you autistic? (If I wasn't clear, I am.)

 

[Snoder]

I know. We just have a more sensitive immune system to some of them.

The article from California doesn't count ASD1s (which is the bulk of us), only 2s & 3s. There is most definitely an epidemic of ASD2/3s among the Millennials. They are the ones who occurred 1:1000 before the change was made to certain vaccines. (I got all of mine without any problems [before that change].) ASD1s (without complications) have always been present.

The only thing that has increased is the understanding of autism and the diagnosis of it.

 

[Snoder]

That neurological variation [not disability]

Your brain has nothing to do with your immune system. The immune system can attack certain organs by autoimmunity.

 

[Sabertooth]

Your brain has nothing to do with your immune system. The immune system can attack certain organs by autoimmunity.

No, but hereditary gifteds & autistics have a higher incidence of allergies (as linked in my previous post).

The only thing that has increased is the understanding of autism and the diagnosis of it.

And the total number of people requiring special education (regardless of diagnosis). If they were labeled something else besides autism, they still would have filled the same chairs, but that hasn't been the case.

We would have a class like

Downs x 2, Juvenile Schizophrenia x 3, Autism x 1

replaced with

Downs x 2, ASD2/3 x 4. (No change in class size.)

What we DO have is

Downs x 2, Autism x 1

being replaced with

Downs x 2, ASD2/3 x 4. (Class size doubled.)

1. ASD1s (the majority of additional diagnoses) aren't in Special Ed.
2. An infantile, non-verbal individual would not have been previously mainstreamed no matter what her diagnosis was. Imagine: oblivious to the teacher, randomly biting people, pooping on the floor whenever the urge strikes, etc. (There are more of those, now, than there ever has been before, under ANY diagnosis.)

An increased understanding of autism does not explain the larger special ed. class sizes.

 

[Snoder]

No, but hereditary gifteds & autistics have a higher incidence of allergies (as linked in my previous post).

Your brain structure and chemistry has nothing to do with the immunological response over the rest of the body. The brain is protected by a barrier in CSF fluid. The brain does not cause immunological responses... except in rare circumstances.

And the total number of people requiring special education (regardless of diagnosis). If they were labeled something else besides autism, they still would filled the same chairs, but that hasn't been the case.

We would have a class like

Our better understanding of autism has resulted in improved classroom education.So-called functional autism often describes usually intelligent people with diminished social skills. They cannot read people and it is incredibly frustrating. Some adopt calculated social skills that requires intense focus.

 

[Sabertooth]

The brain does not cause immunological responses.

No, but gifteds & hereditary autistics still exhibit said traits.

So-called functional autism often describes usually intelligent people with diminished social skills. They cannot read people and it is incredibly frustrating. Some adopt calculated social skills that requires intense focus.

But those aren't included in special ed. Read the linked article. It refutes everything that you are proposing.

 

[Larniavc]

The wages of Sin is death. And who wants to be average anyway?

Massage reduces autism severity 44%; one in 4 kids recover.
Pick a reputable place though.

Recovers from autism? Are you serious?

 

[SkyWriting]

Recovers from autism? Are you serious?

A percentage of children do grow out from under their traits.

The leader of one therapy company has no severe symptoms
after being non-communicative. They use mirroring therapy
to bond with the children and this forms nearly normal skills
with some patients.

 

[Sabertooth]

A percentage of children do grow out from under their traits.

The leader of one therapy company has no severe symptoms
after being non-communicative.

That is only if you think that autism means ASD2/3. Temple Grandin was non-verbal, at first. She is still autistic; probably ASD1.

There is a difference between non-verbal and infantile.

 

[Larniavc]

A percentage of children do grow out from under their traits.

The leader of one therapy company has no severe symptoms
after being non-communicative.

So they could not have actually been autistic. They had some traits.

I did wonder how the neurological structure of an autistic individual could spontaneously re organise to that of a neurotypical.

 

[SkyWriting]

That is only if you think that autism means ASD2/3. Temple Grandin was non-verbal, at first. She is still autistic; probably ASD1.

There is a difference between non-verbal and infantile.

I put no limits on my definition of autism.

 

[SkyWriting]

So they could not have actually been autistic. They had some traits.

I did wonder how the neurological structure of an autistic individual could spontaneously re organise to that of a neurotypical.

Only with therapy, in my opinion. It's the type of malady that Jesus could fix.

 

[Sabertooth]

I put no limits on my definition of autism.

Does that mean that it lacks precision?

 

[SkyWriting]

Does that mean that it lacks precision?

Absolutely.

"If you've met one person with Autism,
you've met one person with Autism."

Dr. Shore

 

[Larniavc]

Only with therapy, in my opinion. It's the type of malady that Jesus could fix.

Hold on. You mean to say talking therapy can change the ratio of white to grey matter in the brain?

 

[SkyWriting]

Hold on. You mean to say talking therapy can change the ratio of white to grey matter in the brain?

Juggling does that.
As does Alzheimer's.

 

[Larniavc]

Juggling does that.
As does Alzheimer's.

I don’t think you know anything about the neuropathology of ASD.

 

[Sabertooth]

I don’t think you know anything about the neuropathology of ASD.

Only aggravated autism [ASD2/3] is neuropathology. Basic autism [ASD1] is an expression of neuro-diversity, like giftedness is.