Is Astrology a science?

[inquiring mind]

On the science side of the scientific method, the wall for creationist ideas is at ‘Conduct a Hypothesis.’ This is the stop-gap for anything other than accepted norms of evolutionary theory, where it is bludgeoned to death in public with concentrated scientific community ridicule.

 

[sjastro]

I'll address the pseudoscience part:

PSEUDOSCIENCE: Do not dare/want to ask questions.
AV1611VET: Ask away.

PSEUDOSCIENCE: Conduct a model based on preconceived ideas.
AV1611VET: Conduct a model based on the Bible.

PSEUDOSCIENCE: Find data that fits the model.
AV1611VET: Find data (if any exists) that fits the model.

PSEUDOSCIENCE: Discard data that does not align with the model.
AV1611VET: Discard data that contradicts the Bible.

You do realize you have made the Bible a subset of PSEUDOSCIENCE.
That would make it PSEUDOPSEUDOSCIENCE.
Wait a moment that can't be right as PSEUDOPSEUDOSCIENCE = SCIENCE, we need to add an extra PSEUDO prefix.
Hence by your logic the Bible is PSEUDOPSEUDOPSEUDOSCIENCE.

This is almost as bad as an EU fanatic in this forum who will remain nameless inadvertently stumbled on 1 = 0.5.

 

[AV1611VET]

The Bible is a model which contains lots of preconceived (and untestable) ideas.

AV1611VET's discarding of data ...

What data?

 

[AV1611VET]

You do realize you have made the Bible a subset of PSEUDOSCIENCE.
That would make it PSEUDOPSEUDOSCIENCE.
Wait a moment that can't be right as PSEUDOPSEUDOSCIENCE = SCIENCE, we need to add an extra PSEUDO prefix.
Hence by your logic the Bible is PSEUDOPSEUDOPSEUDOSCIENCE.

This is almost as bad as an EU fanatic in this forum who will remain nameless inadvertently stumbled on 1 = 0.5.

So if you don't ask away ... then what?

 

[sjastro]

So if you don't ask away ... then what?

OK I'll ask the question.
Show me the archaeological evidence which supports Geneses or Exodus?

 

[SelfSim]

What data?

Beliefs.

 

[AV1611VET]

OK I'll ask the question.
Show me the archaeological evidence which supports Geneses or Exodus?

The existence of the Jews.

I can't remember the story now, but a famous evangelist was talking to the queen of England, and she asked him to authenticate the Bible in one sentence; to which he replied he could authenticate It in one word: "Jew."

 

[Astrid]

On the science side of the scientific method, the wall for creationist ideas is at ‘Conduct a Hypothesis.’ This is the stop-gap for anything other than accepted norms of evolutionary theory, where it is bludgeoned to death in public with concentrated scientific community ridicule.

You exaggerate way past the point
where you drift into blatant falsehood.

That your "fact" made up is well shown
by your inability to provide a source for
said "fact", nor one example.

The stupidity and sheer silliness of most
attempts to disprove ToE make them
unworthy of any noticr, still less the
violent reaction you invented.


The lies and fraud from yecs ( see paluxy
man tracks, for one) are contemptible.

Of course they get no respect nod deserve any.

IF, by remote chance, someone in, Nanjing were to
discover the disproof, then, it would attract great
attention, very rigorous testing and controversy,
but, as, with all rrvolutionsry scientific discoveries,
it would prevail and, be the scientific discovery of
perhaps all time

It is understandable lthat you would want to lash
back and say like " you guys are worse" when the
gross dishonesty of " yec science " is identified and
described.

There are other problems with this attempt to
escape the implications of yec dishonesty, but
I will leave them for you.

Just for an objective aspect-

Zero evidence or example for your claim
Zero.

A long list of examples- including the very charters
of the yec organizations- tell anyone who it is
that will do anything to reject facts.

 

[Astrid]

OK I'll ask the question.
Show me the archaeological evidence which supports Geneses or Exodus?

Now now, play fair. Ya gotta tip the playing
field to 90 degrees

 

[Astrid]

On the science side of the scientific method, the wall for creationist ideas is at ‘Conduct a Hypothesis.’ This is the stop-gap for anything other than accepted norms of evolutionary theory, where it is bludgeoned to death in public with concentrated scientific community ridicule.

Nobody can " conduct a hypothesis".

 

[inquiring mind]

Nobody can " conduct a hypothesis".

I was just quoting from sjastro's chart... are you saying that's false information?

 

[sjastro]

The existence of the Jews.

I can't remember the story now, but a famous evangelist was talking to the queen of England, and she asked him to authenticate the Bible in one sentence; to which he replied he could authenticate It in one word: "Jew."

That is not physical evidence.
Physical evidence is like what an archaeologist would dig out of the ground which supports Geneses and Exodus.

 

[sjastro]

Now now, play fair. Ya gotta tip the playing
field to 90 degrees

No concessions he has to abide by the rules.

 

[Bradskii]

He does not reject Science. That would be intellectual dishonesty.

What? You just requoted him saying exactly that.

'even if all the evidence in the universe turns against yec...'

He just admitted that he will reject the totality of science. The man is either a fool or a charlatan.

 

[AV1611VET]

The lies and fraud from yecs (see paluxy man tracks, for one) are contemptible.

How about academia's Patterson-Gimlin film? not to mention crop circles done by college students?

"Few pranks can match the creativity and intricacy of MIT's most famous hacks. When a car appears on a roof or giant stone-engraved words change overnight, pranksters everywhere show deference.

Tomorrow night (Oct. 10), the Discovery Channel will put the spotlight on the only tradition of hacks that can compare to (and in terms of scale, even outstrip) MIT's. Crop circles - the giant, geometric indentations that appear in fields around the world and which some people believe are made by extraterrestrial visitors - are the subject of the hour-long special "Crop Circles: Mystery in the Fields."

SOURCE

 

[SelfSim]

I was just quoting from sjastro's chart... are you saying that's false information?

Just a term of speech:
A conductor is the person who conducts an orchestra to produce music from a composition.
An hypothesiser is the person who conducts ideas into an hypothesis.

 

[Astrid]

I was just quoting from sjastro's chart... are you saying that's false information?

Quoting an error doesn't help you

 

[Hans Blaster]

You do realize you have made the Bible a subset of PSEUDOSCIENCE.
That would make it PSEUDOPSEUDOSCIENCE.
Wait a moment that can't be right as PSEUDOPSEUDOSCIENCE = SCIENCE, we need to add an extra PSEUDO prefix.
Hence by your logic the Bible is PSEUDOPSEUDOPSEUDOSCIENCE.

This is almost as bad as an EU fanatic in this forum who will remain nameless inadvertently stumbled on 1 = 0.5.

I used to know a couple good proofs that could prove 1=0. (The key is to divide silently by zero.)

 

[Hans Blaster]

The existence of the Jews.

I can't remember the story now, but a famous evangelist was talking to the queen of England, and she asked him to authenticate the Bible in one sentence; to which he replied he could authenticate It in one word: "Jew."

"Jew" isn't a sentence; it's a noun. (Unless the speaker is a bigot, in which case they may have used it as an adjective or verb.)

 

[inquiring mind]

Quoting an error doesn't help you

Just science I suppose.