Intelligences

[fatboys]

Actually, yes. I have a bridge to sell, are you interested?

Gort read it. Tell me a 21 year old man who had little education and was not a scriptorian was able to write this off the cuff.

 

[BarryK]

If you look long enough you can even find that the idea of a christ came from pagans.

I allways thought the idea of a Christ came from God

Barry why do you do this everytime I say something? The concept of justice is of God. To be a just God, then does that not relate to justice. Justice only see's disobedience. Does not matter the circumstances, or promise that a person is totally sincere in changing and never disobeys again. The balance between Justice and Mercy can only be kept by God. In this life, we try to muttle justice with mercy. When we stand before God, we will know without any doubt that Jesus is the Christ and have no excuses. We will not say that God is unfair.

our western/pagan idea of "blind justice", the goddess with the scales and the blindfold is rooted in a pagan greek worldview

 

[BarryK]

Gort read it. Tell me a 21 year old man who had little education and was not a scriptorian was able to write this off the cuff.

nope, not "off the cuff" this young man with a family history of witchcraft (i.e. divining, trasuere hunting with peep stones, wtc) had some help form onw who was disguised as an "angel of light"

2 Corinthians 11:13-15 (KJV)
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works

Galatians1:6-9 (KJV)
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

 

[sk8Joyful]

Mormonism teaches that
God procreated the self-existing intelligences into spirits and he organized the human bodies. They did not organize themselves.

Yes, that's what I was taught as a mormon once too.
But see, how easily atheists could spin that around?
And the point remains, instead of dwelling on some PAST which no human really knows about;
how much more our Individual-development (soul & mind & body) would be, by us creating our Future in the present...

 

[sk8Joyful]

Let me ask this question.

Do you believe that before God created, that he was alone? If so, how long had he been alone, and
why did he feel the need to create at that time and not some other time.
Once he begin to create, did God stay the same or did God have more?

That's actually 5+ questions; and too as I said, I'm
fairly sure that God, our Heavenly Father, wants us to FOCUS our attention on how = successfully-in-Him we each can live & continue developing... as in this course we are putting our "intelligence" to the best use possible.

Also, God has no "need" :o as humans do; such
that
He creates out of Pleasure...because He can...It is blissfully delightful to create...it is FUN

 

[fatboys]

That's actually 5+ questions; and too as I said, I'm
fairly sure that God, our Heavenly Father, wants us to FOCUS our attention on how = successfully-in-Him we each can live & continue developing... as in this course we are putting our "intelligence" to the best use possible.

Right.

Also, God has no "need" :o as humans do; such
that
He creates out of Pleasure...because He can...It is blissfully delightful to create...it is FUN

So God creates for HIS pleasure? There is no purpose behind it, but to only provide pleasure. Did God need more pleasure? Before God created did God have pleasure?

 

[gort]

Gort read it. Tell me a 21 year old man who had little education and was not a scriptorian was able to write this off the cuff.

I think selling the Brooklyn Bridge scam far outweighs writing a book. Think about it.

 

[Rescued One]

Gort read it. Tell me a 21 year old man who had little education and was not a scriptorian was able to write this off the cuff.

Having little formal education doesn't make a person stupid. And where is there any proof that he wrote it or that it was off the cuff?

 

[BarryK]

Having little formal education doesn't make a person stupid....

and sometimes having too much of a formal education can be hazardous

 

[Wrigley]

and sometimes having too much of a formal education can be hazardous

Yep, a prime example is our current Federal leadership team.

 

[BarryK]

Right.



So God creates for HIS pleasure? There is no purpose behind it, but to only provide pleasure. Did God need more pleasure? Before God created did God have pleasure?

If you had read your Bible,. you would have known this allready, so I exhort you: Read you Bible Fatboys!!
It is clear as an unmuddied lake that God did indeed create for His pleasure

Revelation 4:8-11 (KJV)
8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. 9 And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever, 10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, 11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

 

[Rescued One]

Right.

So God creates for HIS pleasure? There is no purpose behind it, but to only provide pleasure. Did God need more pleasure? Before God created did God have pleasure?

Is the Bible the inspired word of God or were plain and precious things excised from it and false statements added to it by the "great and abominable church?"

"Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory, and honour, and power: for Thou hast created all things, and for Thy pleasure they are and were created"
(Rev. 4:11).

"That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus" (Ephesians 2:7).


Note:
The Apostasy and the loss of many plain and precious parts of the Bible are referred to in the Book of Mormon, 1 Nephi 13.

 

[RufustheRed]

Gort read it. Tell me a 21 year old man who had little education and was not a scriptorian was able to write this off the cuff.

What is a "scriptorian?" When I search for it all I see is "no dictionary results." What does "scriptorian" mean and where can I find the definition?

Thanks,
Rufus

 

[Rescued One]

Maybe scriptorian is an exclusively LDS word. I often heard that word in the LDS church and just assumed that it was a real word.

 

[Wrigley]

Maybe scriptorian is an exclusively LDS word. I often heard that word in the LDS church and just assumed that it was a real word.

Here's what I've found

What is Scriptorian?


Scriptorian's Scripture Marking System - LDS Scripture Study System, The Scriptorians Scripture Marking System

Scriptorian


Then these

Scriptorian Definition | Definition of Scriptorian at Dictionary.com

- Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

Urban Dictionary: scriptorian

scriptorian « Search Results « Mormon Dictionary


The last is from a mormon dictionary. I guess one conclusion that could be drawn is that because mormonism is creative enough to make up doctrine not found in the Bible, it also makes up words not even found in their dictionary, let alone mainstream dictionaries.

 

[gort]

Here's what I've found

What is Scriptorian?


Scriptorian's Scripture Marking System - LDS Scripture Study System, The Scriptorians Scripture Marking System

Scriptorian


Then these

Scriptorian Definition | Definition of Scriptorian at Dictionary.com

- Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

Urban Dictionary: scriptorian

scriptorian « Search Results « Mormon Dictionary


The last is from a mormon dictionary. I guess one conclusion that could be drawn is that because mormonism is creative enough to make up doctrine not found in the Bible, it also makes up words not even found in their dictionary, let alone mainstream dictionaries.

Yes, I noticed that. Thinking that I would find the definition in another link next to the big empty spot , I did run across this which looks interesting and fun to play...LDS Games

Elder Hero's really not a Zero

 

[Rescued One]

Master Scriptorians

Eight seminary students in the Oregon City Oregon Stake achieved a master scriptorian rating. This award is available to seminary students in their final year of seminary. It is achieved by reading all four standard works during their years in seminary, locating 160 designated scriptures, and memorizing 100 of those scriptures and quoting them to a member of the stake presidency.

Those working toward the master scriptorian award met together several times during the year at the home of one of the early-morning seminary teachers to learn memorization techniques, discuss scriptural meaning, and lend support to each other...
“FYI: For Your Information,” New Era, April 1985, p. 40

He was a great scriptorian, and during his administration the Friend magazine was first published.
“Funstuf,” Friend, Nov. 2003


So, shall we get back on topic?

 

[Wrigley]

Master Scriptorians

Eight seminary students in the Oregon City Oregon Stake achieved a master scriptorian rating. This award is available to seminary students in their final year of seminary. It is achieved by reading all four standard works during their years in seminary, locating 160 designated scriptures, and memorizing 100 of those scriptures and quoting them to a member of the stake presidency.

Those working toward the master scriptorian award met together several times during the year at the home of one of the early-morning seminary teachers to learn memorization techniques, discuss scriptural meaning, and lend support to each other...
“FYI: For Your Information,” New Era, April 1985, p. 40

He was a great scriptorian, and during his administration the Friend magazine was first published.
“Funstuf,” Friend, Nov. 2003


So, shall we get back on topic?

We haven't found the definition yet.

 

[Rescued One]

We haven't found the definition yet.

Maybe you'll learn the definition after you register for classes:

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A scriptorian is a person who spends his/her time studying and memorizing the LDS scriptures.

 

[BarryK]

Originally Posted by fatboys

Right.



So God creates for HIS pleasure? There is no purpose behind it, but to only provide pleasure. Did God need more pleasure? Before God created did God have pleasure?
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If you had read your Bible,. you would have known this allready, so I exhort you: Read you Bible Fatboys!!
It is clear as an unmuddied lake that God did indeed create for His pleasure

Revelation 4:8-11 (KJV)
8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. 9 And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever, 10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, 11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

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