Inquiries into God's state before creation

[hedrick]

To me one aspect of the Trinity is that God is inherently oriented towards incarnation. I don’t think the incarnation is a historical accident that might or might not have happened. That implies a creation I think.

 

[The Liturgist]

To me one aspect of the Trinity is that God is inherently oriented towards incarnation. I don’t think the incarnation is a historical accident that might or might not have happened. That implies a creation I think.

Yes I rather like that.

 

[ViaCrucis]

To me one aspect of the Trinity is that God is inherently oriented towards incarnation. I don’t think the incarnation is a historical accident that might or might not have happened. That implies a creation I think.

That reminds me of certain discussions I've heard of wherein some have argued that it is, in a sense, impossible to truly speak of the Logos Asarkos, and that to speak of the Logos means to speak of the Logos Ensarkos; not because Christ began to exist at the moment of Incarnation; but because the Incarnation while to us is history, something that happens within time; God's unique transcendence with time means that the Incarnation is not accidental or incidental, but speaks to God's own understanding of Himself. That is, while from our perspective we might be able to say the Logos became flesh at this moment of time and history--His conception in the womb of Mary--but God being God is outside of time transcending it entirely. Thus can there, in a real sense actually be a Logos Asarkos (in contrast to the Logos Ensarkos); but rather Incarnation has always been (at least in some sense) really real in the Logos' Self-Identity as the Second Divine Person.

I'm not trying to provide my own opinion on that subject so much as trying to explain the ideas as I've encountered them--which I do find, if nothing else, interesting (though possibly total and confusing speculation) to think about.

-CryptoLutheran