Infant baptism

[Ann M]

Is the infant going to be baptised with the Biblical way using full immersion, the way John and Jesus did.

Your statement here reads that Jesus baptized, yet the post above you say no he didn't his disciples did. Please make up your mind.

 

[Ann M]

Quick question

Can anyone clearly explain the difference between a baby dedication and a baptism?

 

[Oblio]

I think a dedication is kinda like the Baptismal vows made by the Godparent prior to the Baptism, though often it is the parents and perhaps the congregation that make these vows. They are of course (at least in Baptist dedications) bereft of any Sacramental nature.

 

[Symes]

Your statement here reads that Jesus baptized, yet the post above you say no he didn't his disciples did. Please make up your mind.

It was not Jesus Himself that baptised but it was His disciples. It was in the same manner that Jesus was baptized by John.

 

[katherine2001]

It's interesting to see the babies baptized. As Oblio said (I'm also Orthodox), they are immersed 3 times (and fully immersed) in the water, once for each person of the Trinity. Usually by the point where they are actually baptized, they are asleep (or almost asleep) in their godparent's arms, and they don't start crying until they are immersed the second time. The first time, they are usually too surprised to cry. Babies are usually baptized when they are about 40 days old. They are chrismated (annointed with oil) right after they are baptized and they receive all the sacraments, including the Eucharist, from that time on. They are full members of the Church.

 

[Bulldog]

Just a question..

DOes the BIble allow for Baptism not by full immersion?

 

[Symes]

Just a question..

DOes the BIble allow for Baptism not by full immersion?

When we understand the full significance of what baptism means, we would say NO.

Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

This is what baptism is about. You bury someone, you fully immerse that person. A few drops of water is not good enough.

A person is put into the ground on their back, likewise in baptism they are lowered into the water on their back and rise up a new person as the text says.

 

[JVAC]

When we understand the full significance of what baptism means, we would say NO.

Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

This is what baptism is about. You bury someone, you fully immerse that person. A few drops of water is not good enough.

A person is put into the ground on their back, likewise in baptism they are lowered into the water on their back and rise up a new person as the text says.

No, baptism is about God's command and promise!

-James

 

[Celticflower]

When we understand the full significance of what baptism means, we would say NO.

Romans 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

This is what baptism is about. You bury someone, you fully immerse that person. A few drops of water is not good enough.

A person is put into the ground on their back, likewise in baptism they are lowered into the water on their back and rise up a new person as the text says.

You equate baptism with the amount of water used?
So, in a drought stricken land you are to contaminate the drinking supply for an entire village for how ever long it takes to replenish it for the sake of one baptism?
Seems a bit selfish and narrow minded to me. But hey, what do I know?

Celtie

 

[Lotar]

It's interesting too because the water at some of the biblical baptism sites never gets deep enough for full immersion.

 

[Symes]

No, baptism is about God's command and promise!

-James

So why am I wrong in what I said?

I gave a Bible verse to show you what is right and you have come out and said No, any reason why the Bible evrse is wrong?

 

[JVAC]

So why am I wrong in what I said?

Because you said:

This is what baptism is about. You bury someone, you fully immerse that person. A few drops of water is not good enough.

A person is put into the ground on their back, likewise in baptism they are lowered into the water on their back and rise up a new person as the text says.

Baptism isn't about symbolism, though one could add symbolism to it. It is not about the symbolism of Romans 6:4 it is about what Romans 6:4 actually means. Baptism seals us to Christ it seals us with his name and all his benefits.

I gave a Bible verse to show you what is right and you have come out and said No, any reason why the Bible evrse is wrong?

You didn't give me a bible verse that says that. You gave me a verse that I already gave you. This verse is not talking about 'baptismal symbolism' but what actually happens through and from baptism.

-James