Independent/Fundamental Baptist?

[HereIStand]

Can One disagree with God and still be a follower of God.. I believe people must believe God and because we are all lacking in wisdom we need to trust God in the things we do not understand.. Without faith it is impossible to please God..

Rules in church schools can be based on the Bible, but still open to disagreement. In my school, tapered hair in the back was mandated, block cuts were baned. Skirts for girls had to be below the knee. While these were fine and well intended, Christians are free to disagree with them.

 

[Adstar]

Rules in church schools can be based on the Bible, but still open to disagreement. In my school, tapered hair in the back was mandated, block cuts were baned. Skirts for girls had to be below the knee. While these were fine and well intended, Christians are free to disagree with them.

Well i am confining my focus on the teachings of Jesus in the Bible.. I am not including rules that come from other sources..

 

[Spirit of Pentecost]

Just a side note question here, but are Independent and/or Fundamental Baptists considered Charismatic or Pentecostal in their theology?

 

[HereIStand]

Just a side note question here, but are Independent and/or Fundamental Baptists considered Charismatic or Pentecostal in their theology?

Not that I've found. There are Pentecostals who are more fundamentalist, or so they seem.

 

[Spirit of Pentecost]

Not that I've found. There are Pentecostals who are more fundamentalist, or so they seem.

Thanks. I wasn't sure because, from what I gather, most Fundamental/Independent Baptists practice some form of "holiness standards," and the spiritual gifts are often a given with those groups. I guess not in all cases.

And speaking of Fundamental Pentecostals, I don't know of any that consider themselves as such. I'm guessing you're referring to their holiness attire, which is now most commonly found in Oneness churches. Most Trinitarian Pentecostals today don't adhere to the holiness standards anymore, but some still do.

 

[HereIStand]

Thanks. I wasn't sure because, from what I gather, most Fundamental/Independent Baptists practice some form of "holiness standards," and the spiritual gifts are often a given with those groups. I guess not in all cases.

And speaking of Fundamental Pentecostals, I don't know of any that consider themselves as such. I'm guessing you're referring to their holiness attire, which is now most commonly found in Oneness churches. Most Trinitarian Pentecostals today don't adhere to the holiness standards anymore, but some still do.

The Fundamental/Independent Baptists that I know of believe in standards, covering things like no pants on women, short hair on men, no rock music, no alcohol, and no movies. While people say "Amen" in the services, the churches don't have a charismatic style of worship.

That's interesting about Pentecostals. Not being too familiar with them, I had assumed they were similar to Independent Baptists in terms of standards.

 

[Spirit of Pentecost]

The Fundamental/Independent Baptists that I know of believe in standards, covering things like no pants on women, short hair on men, no rock music, no alcohol, and no movies. While people say "Amen" in the services, the churches don't have a charismatic style of worship.

That's interesting about Pentecostals. Not being too familiar with them, I had assumed they were similar to Independent Baptists in terms of standards.

Nowadays, the majority of Pentecostals that adhere to strict holiness standards (by strict I don't mean they're forced on believers, but perhaps preferred) are found in Oneness churches, particularly the UPC or other Oneness/Apostolic churches, whether or not they're affiliated with a specific organization. There are some Trinitarian Pentecostals that still have strong holiness standards, but most of them now can't be picked out of group of any other Christians. Likewise, in more recent years, some Oneness churches have gradually became more lenient with their standards and expectations.

Forty years or so back, you couldn't tell difference between Oneness or Trinitarian Pentecostals if you went only by their appearance. (Their beliefs would verify which realm the fell in.) And if you went back even further than that, maybe a hundred years ago (or further) all Christians (regardless of church affiliation) looked virtually the same.

 

[HereIStand]

Nowadays, the majority of Pentecostals that adhere to strict holiness standards (by strict I don't mean they're forced on believers, but perhaps preferred) are found in Oneness churches, particularly the UPC or other Oneness/Apostolic churches, whether or not they're affiliated with a specific organization. There are some Trinitarian Pentecostals that still have strong holiness standards, but most of them now can't be picked out of group of any other Christians. Likewise, in more recent years, some Oneness churches have gradually became more lenient with their standards and expectations.

Forty years or so back, you couldn't tell difference between Oneness or Trinitarian Pentecostals if you went only by their appearance. (Their beliefs would verify which realm the fell in.) And if you went back even further than that, maybe a hundred years ago (or further) all Christians (regardless of church affiliation) looked virtually the same.

I don't really mind the dress standards. They can be good for school-age children. The problem with these and other standards among Independent Baptists is that they are enforced on the rank and file, while the leadership becomes engrossed in immorality. This isn't true of all ministries by any means, but it has been a problem.

 

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[bscott915]

Are there are independent/fundamental baptists here? I'm swaying more towards these congregations but was hoping to speak with some people who aren't actively trying to get me to join their church. Haha. I know people mean well when they see a new face at worship but sometimes it's overwhelming! Thank you

I am a member of an independent/fundamental baptist church. I have been in the denomination since my youth.

 

[HereIStand]

I am a member of an independent/fundamental baptist church. I have been in the denomination since my youth.

Welcome to CF, @bscott915.
I was raised in independent/fundamental baptist churches and a school. I still agree with their stances on hell and a literal reading of the days in Genesis. These stances are, sadly, too uncommon elsewhere in Christianity.

 

[bscott915]

Welcome to CF, @bscott915.
I was raised in independent/fundamental baptist churches and a school. I still agree with their stances on hell and a literal reading of the days in Genesis. These stances are, sadly, too uncommon elsewhere in Christianity.

Thank you for the welcome! I also agree with most of their stances. Yes, uncommon in many popular denominations these days.

 

[ml5363]

My family has been attending a small independent Baptist church last 2 years...they stick to the bible..most of the churches I attended before where southern Baptist...I would recommend a small one...we seem like a family...