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[AV1611VET]

Aha, nonononono.....

God refers to a disease called the burning ague. The connection between that and a diminished skull is your own personal ad hocery, because you tried to justify your buying of the "Neanderthal man just had rickets" canard hook line and sinker.

I know you like your ad hoc, but let's not pretend this is what God actually meant in the Bible.

It's called 'putting two and two together'.

The burning ague gives us insight into how a diminished skull can be found, since it takes heat to diminish a skull.

If you want to jettison the 'burning ague' angle -- fine.

You'll just make it even harder to understand.

 

[Cabal]

It's called 'putting two and two together'.

Nope - your connection to Neanderthal man is based entirely on your own personal non sequiturs - the Bible does not refer to it.

The burning ague gives us insight into how a diminished skull can be found, since it takes heat to diminish a skull.

Yeah, right.

If you want to jettison the 'burning ague' angle -- fine.

You'll just make it even harder to understand.

Don't put this back on me. You WON'T jettison the burning ague angle, because you know that doing so will just make your beliefs harder to explain. You want us to believe you're sticking to the Bible, stop inserting your own personal illogic in there.

 

[AV1611VET]

Nope - your connection to Neanderthal man is based entirely on your own personal non sequiturs - the Bible does not refer to it.

Nor does evolution from Neanderthal Man refer to the burning ague -- so what?

Yeah, right.

Yeah, right.

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[Cabal]

Nor does evolution from Neanderthal Man refer to the burning ague -- so what?

So you're being inconsistent and desperately trying to avoid it by bringing up irrelevant questions about evolution.

Yeah, right.

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Yeah - after it's dead and decapitated - trying to dessicate someone's head while they're still using it isn't going to leave them alive very long.

Goodness, this must have been what dark age medical treatment must have felt like

 

[AV1611VET]

Yeah - after it's dead and decapitated - trying to dessicate someone's head while their still using it isn't going to leave them alive very long.

Are you trying to be obtuse on purpose, Cabal?

Because if you are, you're only confusing yourself.

God sent diseases on people that affected their bones.

If you guys have dug bones up with diminished skulls, I have no choice but to assume they were from the effects of these diseases.

Since Wikipedia mentions the application of heat in the process of shrinking heads, I connect the dots.

You guys, on the other hand, jettison all that and assume they were some race of beings from another time period, and I'm not buying it.

 

[Cabal]

Are you trying to be obtuse on purpose, Cabal?

Because if you are, you're only confusing yourself.

God sent diseases on people that affected their bones.

No, you have no reason to think that FROM THE BIBLICAL ACCOUNT. You are starting to muddle your ad hoc together. All you know is that God sent "fiery ague" on them. You have no clue what the symptoms are besides that, certainly not that it involves bones warping (although it's likely some fever given the name - and fevers are not renowned for their bone-warping abilities).

If you guys have dug bones up with diminished skulls, I have no choice but to assume they were from the effects of these diseases.

Since Wikipedia mentions the application of heat in the process of shrinking heads, I connect the dots.

Right, and the level of metabolic heat from fever and the amount of heat applied to shrink heads are vastly different, the latter likely to kill you - and yet in your previous QV'd thread I seem to recall you saying that the sufferers would still be productive though deteriorating human members of society rather than nondiseased members of some other species. How exactly are you supposed to still be alive and contributing when your brain has either dried out or been crushed by your shrinking skull?

You guys, on the other hand, jettison all that and assume they were some race of beings from another time period, and I'm not buying it.

Jettison it? It was never credible to take on board in the first place. You seem to think your own vague word-association games are equivalent to rigorous research - stop kidding yourself.

 

[KhlulHloo]

On the contrary, you are the asinine one. Quotes are the only real form of evidence:

"The only real evidence that any critic may bring before his gaze is the finished poem (quote)"; Allen Tate, theorist, 1932

Quote-mining is asinine.

Winning post is full of win!
The Great Old Ones approve

 

[Naraoia]

Taken from SciAm, Oct. 2010, pp.56-59

Whom do you typically trust to provide accurate information about important issues in society?

Online survey with over 21,000 respondents.

Out of five: 1 = strongly distrust & 5 = highly trust

Scientists: 3.98
Friends or family 3.09
NGOs 3.09
Citizen groups 2.69
Journalists 2.57
Companies 1.78
Elected officials 1.76
Religious authorities 1.55

More to follow.

Wanna see stats on the respondents. I have a feeling that SciAm readership isn't exactly representative of US population.

Ooh! Survey Time!

Myself: 4
Scientists: 3, but varies: 4 hard-sci and 2 soft-sci

How do you distinguish hard from soft?

They are the missing link that is proof of evolution:

" transformation of their own makeup to [...] the human form they took on physical bodies fashioned on their prior knowledge of the human DNA structure and cellular make up." returnofthenephilim.com, evolutionary website, 2010

Do we really need a parody Agon if we have the real one?

The link between apes and humans* is disease.

* As I understand it, we didn't come from the apes.

To be precise, we didn't come from any living species of ape. But we did come from extinct apes (and we still are apes - remember the dinosaurs your cat catches? )

I thought the question, "If we came from apes, why are apes still around?" was a PRATT?

Yeeees... and how does that imply that we didn't come from apes?

Despite the fact that our "ancestors" carry the name "pithecus" in their entries --

Completely irrelevant Basilosaurus ain't much of a lizard...

Names are just labels. They don't always describe the thing they label accurately. I guess it's a difficult concept to grasp for a literalist.