Implications of humans making deal with aliens

[Jipsah]

That's not totally true. Once we make contact with Aliens humanity finally grows up. The two great evils that we kill each other over is religion and money and once out among the stars both become irrelevant.

Do we have to buy Nike sneakers to wear when the mothership comes?

 

[Jipsah]

What's worse is they come in fifty shades.

YOu're fired.

 

[Petros2015]

People also claim to have seen sasquatch and lizard people.

 

[Jipsah]

The universe is too big and too many stars for humans to be alone.

How big does a place have to be before aliens become inevitable?

Aliens have been visiting us for thousands of years.

And now they never call, they never write, what happened?

 

[Petros2015]

They must have been thousands of years ahead of us in technology, did they wipe themselves out with nukes?

Social media, would be my guess. Either that or 5G.

 

[RickReads]

Your so so wrong.

Do angels good and bad need chariots or crafts to fly around in?

1 Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river of Chebar, that the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God.

2 In the fifth day of the month, which was the fifth year of king Jehoiachin's captivity,

3 The word of the Lord came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand of the Lord was there upon him.

4 And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.

5 Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.

6 And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.

7 And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass.

8 And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings.

9 Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward.

10 As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.

11 Thus were their faces: and their wings were stretched upward; two wings of every one were joined one to another, and two covered their bodies.

12 And they went every one straight forward: whither the spirit was to go, they went; and they turned not when they went.

13 As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning.

14 And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning.

15 Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces.

16 The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.

17 When they went, they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went.

18 As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four.

19 And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.

20 Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.

21 When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.

22 And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.

23 And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side, their bodies.

24 And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings.

25 And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings.

26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.

27 And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about.

 

[ViaCrucis]

1 Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river of Chebar, that the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God.

2 In the fifth day of the month, which was the fifth year of king Jehoiachin's captivity,

3 The word of the Lord came expressly unto Ezekiel the priest, the son of Buzi, in the land of the Chaldeans by the river Chebar; and the hand of the Lord was there upon him.

4 And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.

5 Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.

6 And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.

7 And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass.

8 And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides; and they four had their faces and their wings.

9 Their wings were joined one to another; they turned not when they went; they went every one straight forward.

10 As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.

11 Thus were their faces: and their wings were stretched upward; two wings of every one were joined one to another, and two covered their bodies.

12 And they went every one straight forward: whither the spirit was to go, they went; and they turned not when they went.

13 As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning.

14 And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning.

15 Now as I beheld the living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth by the living creatures, with his four faces.

16 The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.

17 When they went, they went upon their four sides: and they turned not when they went.

18 As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four.

19 And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.

20 Whithersoever the spirit was to go, they went, thither was their spirit to go; and the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.

21 When those went, these went; and when those stood, these stood; and when those were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up over against them: for the spirit of the living creature was in the wheels.

22 And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above.

23 And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side, their bodies.

24 And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings.

25 And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings.

26 And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.

27 And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about.

Ezekiel's vision has nothing to do with flying saucers. That's like saying that Isaiah's vision of the seraphim had to do with dinosaurs because of the mention of feathers.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[RickReads]

Ezekiel's vision has nothing to do with flying saucers. That's like saying that Isaiah's vision of the seraphim had to do with dinosaurs because of the mention of feathers.

-CryptoLutheran

With all due respect Crypto, opinions on this subject vary.

 

[wandering misfit]

Alright, I did hold my tongue. You'all, inperfect EnglishROOF: As the OP say making deals with aliens: is against forum rules.......

 

[wandering misfit]

Move it to conspiracy

 

[steve78]

Ezekiel's vision has nothing to do with flying saucers. That's like saying that Isaiah's vision of the seraphim had to do with dinosaurs because of the mention of feathers.

-CryptoLutheran

It has everything to with flying saucers as supernatural beings don't need to fly around in chariots. The bible texts clearly describe a spacecraft and if you study it clearly it describes re-entry and even the space suits worn by the aliens.

 

[steve78]

[QUOTE="Jipsah, post: 75820423, member: 121357"

And now they never call, they never write, what happened?[/QUOTE]

They do. Your government though neglects to tell you about it though.

 

[steve78]

I think you'll probably meet AI probes before you meet live aliens anyway.
Think about it; what does first contact with Mars look like?
Our little satellite orbits and then a small rover and then slightly bigger ones.
It's impractical to send humans on 100 year journeys; we'll send computer driven
bots first. And of course those will be collecting samples, not starting dialogues.

Just watch out for the ones that plant Flags. That's not good

Your probally right. We are going to find primitive life first even before an AI probes. It most likely exists in our own solar system.

 

[steve78]

Right. With light-up fingertips.

Says someone who belives in a old man with a beard with magical powers.

 

[steve78]

We are not alone.

 

[steve78]

If you mean aliens, according to witnesses they claim to come from other planets and have told various other falsehoods.

Aliens do come from other planets. The only falsehood is those who are still trying to pass them off as demonic or supernatural beings.

 

[steve78]

If there is intelligent life on other planets it would falsify Christianity

There is intelligent life though, the odds of us being alone is 1 in 7 trillion trillion which in mathematical and science terms means its impossible.

 

[ViaCrucis]

It has everything to with flying saucers as supernatural beings don't need to fly around in chariots. The bible texts clearly describe a spacecraft and if you study it clearly it describes re-entry and even the space suits worn by the aliens.

No, the Bible doesn't say anything about spacecraft. That's beyond stupid.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[RickReads]

No, the Bible doesn't say anything about spacecraft. That's beyond stupid.

-CryptoLutheran

Dismissing it doesn`t work very well anymore. It`s a tired strategy for dealing with it, I would have expected more from you. Paul plainly stated that satan`s kingdom is in the atmosphere.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Dismissing it doesn`t work very well anymore. It`s a tired strategy for dealing with it, I would have expected more from you. Paul plainly stated that satan`s kingdom is in the atmosphere.

St. Paul speaks of the devil as the prince of the power of the air. That's a reference to demons being "in the air", a borrowing of Hellenistic language about daemons. In Hellenistic religion a daemon was any divine or subdivine entity, good, bad, neutral. The notion of there being intermediary quasi-divine spirits or "daemons" in the air was part of the Greek world. Judaism appropriated the word daemon to speak of evil spirits, and interpreted the divine and subdivine things which the Greeks believed in as "demons" that is, evil spirits. Hence the New Testament's use of the word daemon (demon) to refer to rebellious evil spirits whose prince is the devil/satan.

As such, St. Paul speaks of the spirits of the air as demons.

That does not mean that demons literally inhabit the atmosphere of the earth.

The reason why I dismiss the notion that the Bible is talking about space ships as stupid is because it is. I don't believe it has any merit. I place that in the same category of ideas such as John Allegro's theory that the New Testament isn't about an historical person named Jesus of Nazareth, but is specially coded language about a first century cult centered around the use of psychedelic mushrooms. No, I'm not making that up.

Not every theory, not every idea, is equally deserving of being taken seriously, or regarded as having merit. Sometimes calling something ridiculous is sufficient, because giving something legitimacy only bolsters such silly notions.

-CryptoLutheran