Impeachment Behind Closed Doors

[Speedwell]

Putting responsibility squarely where it belongs.

For what? You claimed that the House Democrats were not working on legislation and all you can offer as evidence is a proposal they passed which was then rejected by the Senate and is now being worked on in committee. How is that evidence that House Democrats are not working on legislation because they are spending all their time saying mean things about your Chosen One?

 

[NightHawkeye]

For what? You claimed that the House Democrats were not working on legislation and all you can offer as evidence is a proposal they passed which was then rejected by the Senate and is now being worked on in committee. How is that evidence that House Democrats are not working on legislation because they are spending all their time saying mean things about your Chosen One?

Incorrect. Perhaps you missed the part where I said "Congress". You incorrectly took that to mean "House". I reminded you that Democrats in both the Senate and the House were engaged in obstruction.

Clear now?

[Noting that the term "Congress" refers to the bicameral legislature, consisting of both the House and the Senate.]

 

[whatbogsends]

Putting responsibility squarely where it belongs.

Dems not passing the Green New Deal when Republicans have the Senate and Presidency isn't being delinquent in their responsibilities.

Being delinquent in their responsibilities would the failure of Republicans to repeal and replace Obamacare when they held the House, Senate, and Presidency.

You're putting responsibility anywhere other than where it belongs.

 

[Speedwell]

Incorrect. Perhaps you missed the part where I said "Congress". You incorrectly took that to mean "House". I reminded you that Democrats in both the Senate and the House were engaged in obstruction.

Clear now?

[Noting that the term "Congress" refers to the bicameral legislature, consisting of both the House and the Senate.]

No, it doesn't add any more force to your argument.

 

[Yarddog]

Noting that in addition to providing a "check on Presidential authority", as you say, congress also has a number of prescribed responsibilities which responsibilities have been largely neglected as the Democrat leaders devote all of their time to the impeachment frenzy.

The ones shirking their responsibilities more than anyone is the Senate or more notably, Mitch McConnell. The bills which the House has sent to the Senate many times don't even come up for debate because McConnell won't allow it. Some of this is because he is protecting Trump from vetoing bills which the American people want and making Republicans look bad.

 

[NightHawkeye]

No, it doesn't add any more force to your argument.

LOL, it wasn't intended to add force ... merely to correct the record.

 

[Speedwell]

LOL, it wasn't intended to add force ... merely to correct the record.

That the Democrats have done nothing in Congress except go after the President? LOL!

 

[cow451]

Definition of TREASON : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family​

It appears that attempted "Impeachment" without justifiable reason is, in point of fact, treason ... by definition.

Try it. The GOP House members should go for it.

 

[Always in His Presence]

That the Democrats have done nothing in Congress except go after the President? LOL!

There is an impeachment. No wait there it is.

they have not done much more than chase their tails

How is DACA doing? Nothing from the Democratic run House

How about the USMCA? Nothing from the Democratic run House

Gun control? Nothing from the Democratic run House

Infrastructure? Nothing from the Democratic run House


What exactly are they doing?

 

[Arcangl86]

There is an impeachment. No wait there it is.

they have not done much more than chase their tails

How is DACA doing? Nothing from the Democratic run House

H.R.6 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): American Dream and Promise Act of 2019

How about the USMCA? Nothing from the Democratic run House

It doesn't appear that the USMCA was ever formally transmitted to the House. That's on the administration.

Gun control? Nothing from the Democratic run House

Text - H.R.8 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Bipartisan Background Checks Act of 2019

Infrastructure? Nothing from the Democratic run House

They haven't passed any bills yet, but they have been working pretty heavily on it, including taking multiple meetings in the White House. Something as massive as that is going to take time.

What exactly are they doing?

Quite a bit actually. They have passed over 300 bills, only 20 of which were initiated in the Senate. The Senate has passed 75.

 

[stevil]

Definition of TREASON : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family​

It appears that attempted "Impeachment" without justifiable reason is, in point of fact, treason ... by definition.

Impeachment doesn't overthrow the government.

After Clinton was impeached he was still the president and Dems still held office.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Impeachment doesn't overthrow the government.

After Clinton was impeached he was still the president and Dems still held office.

Generally, treason does not result in government overthrow.

Failure, though, hardly makes seditious acts less treasonous.

 

[Speedwell]

Generally, treason does not result in government overthrow.

Failure, though, hardly makes seditious acts less treasonous.

So by your argument, the Republicans were equally guilty of treason when they impeached Clinton but failed to convict him.

 

[stevil]

Generally, treason does not result in government overthrow.

Failure, though, hardly makes seditious acts less treasonous.

Go back to your post where you presented the definition of treason.

 

[NightHawkeye]

So by your argument, the Republicans were equally guilty of treason when they impeached Clinton but failed to convict him.

That would be a good question to ask the Clintons.

 

[stevil]

That would be a good question to ask the Clintons.

It was also a good question to ask of you.
You haven't answered the question though, just deflected.

 

[DaisyDay]

After the fact.

Yes, that's generally how facts are known - after they occur, not before. Alternative facts, however, seem to get known even when they don't occur.

And after the damage has been done. And we only have Schiff's word for that!

The other committee members are bound and gagged that they can't speak up?

How can anyone blithely talk as though this is right??

Who was it that compared politics to making sausage?

 

[DaisyDay]

I've previously outlined the consequences of this assault on law, the Constitution, and established institutions of government. Also, about how one party circumvents the law and, if it succeeds, it will be encouraged to do it again while the other party will feel like adopting the same tactics in response. It cannot fail to hurt the country.

No, you've mostly gone on about precedence rather than law - because the Constitution clearly states that each House makes its own rules. Even though you have claimed that precedence equals law, in this case the Constitution does not support your contention.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

You're entitled to your opinion.

In almost every country in the world, any group attempting for three years to overturn the last election results ... would be considered treasonous. That indeed fits the definition of treason.

Let's be clear. Attempting to win the next election is not treasonous. Attempting to overturn the last duly elected government is treasonous.

Was it treason back when Clinton was impeached?

 

[A_Thinker]

“Rep. Adam Schiff illegally made up a FAKE & terrible statement, pretended it to be mine as the most important part of my call to the Ukrainian President, and read it aloud to Congress and the American people,” Trump wrote on Twitter. “It bore NO relationship to what I said on the call.

He said it was his interpretation of what he understood the call to be saying.

I guarantee everyone else there had their own interpretation, as well ...